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Title: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 07, 2013, 06:16:45 pm
1   the sound the output device is not turned on ,    tried many solutions but cant get it operational
1 modem connect  but dies not show any connection available no home groul available and greyed out
 device manager shows mini ports and cant delete them , dont know why they apear

can update from a dvd  to try and fix
 sfc does not operate
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 09, 2013, 03:00:27 pm
Sounds like a lot of odd problems.

What version of Windows?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 05:04:09 pm
thanks for the contact
windows 7
I think some of the problem originated with a silly virus program that I had to remove
also since upgrading nvidai software it hshows a audio  section thats not activated , this could have caused the sound card not to activate , dont realy know
 tried everything I can think of
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 09, 2013, 05:21:25 pm
A repair install might be a good idea. It isnt a fresh install, you keep all your programs and such.

To do that you need a Windows 7 with SP1, you can get it here
https://sites.google.com/site/linuxlablibrary/windows-iso

And then just follow this guide on how to do a repair install
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Sounds like your problems are deep in the registry, the repair install might fix that since most of the registry is rebuilt during the repair install.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 05:45:39 pm
it wont do a re install from the disc either from boot or in the program
cant do a sfc /scandisc
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 05:48:14 pm
 gettin this on most web sites
add on wont run on this web site see internet options .
 I think its java , tried to reinstll thats works but did not fix the problem
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 09, 2013, 05:52:04 pm
What happens when you try the repair install? What is the error?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 06:09:55 pm
something like cant write file , next time try installing latest version
install updates whist on line

I did all that  even changed a version with a friend  same sesult
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 07:40:19 pm
can we try some reg fix please   look at the photos 
audio  the sound shows no audio device installed
 the 2 photos show the story

 the modem d\link is running but look at both photos its was stange why on network or home

 if we can fix these its a start
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 09, 2013, 10:43:24 pm
as for the updats   the error is 800737712
 it requires a system repair program  then run it loads in a hotfix
and changes nothing
 still no updates
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 11, 2013, 04:50:16 am
hi xenon
                   How did you try sfc command
                   The correct command is sfc /scannow in Run command as administrator
                   Try it. Otherwise,repair install as advised by shane is the only option. Sfc command tries to restore the missing dll and system protected files for the system from its store installation. It is better  to repair windows not reinstall . It will definitely solve the problem.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 11, 2013, 02:57:38 pm
The fact that a repair install wont even start tells me there are a lot of deep problems and we could take a ton of time trying to find out what.

There are over 1 million keys in the registry. Trying to find which ones need replaced will be a nightmare. I would rather try the repair install and get it working as it will do a TON for us. :wink:

Any chance you can get a screen shot of the error for me?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 11, 2013, 04:06:10 pm
sfc  /scannow will not work
java in 64 wont install   


as for the screen shop will re do that and past it up

any idears why the sound wonyt switch on
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 11, 2013, 07:09:51 pm
ok what happens in the upgrade
 I allow the program to update from the internet  then it copies all files to the hard drive
 then it comes up with a messge
restatr the program this tim ealow the program to up date from the internet
 is a circle


 why would java only install 32 bit not 64 ?
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 11, 2013, 09:03:37 pm
Have you seen thread. It gives support to 64 bits, but offline download. what is wrong in downloading offline download?
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 11, 2013, 09:12:20 pm
off line download sound good wheres the thread please
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 11, 2013, 09:30:32 pm
Please see this link
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1880261.html
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 11, 2013, 11:05:28 pm
humm 

look at the picture attachment
is looks for a file thats not on the computer
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 11, 2013, 11:40:49 pm
Hi, do you mean that you could not download from that java link.
I could download the same file for windows 64bit, the last but one in the list meant for windows x86 64 bit
i have not received any installer error
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 12, 2013, 04:07:16 pm
the last two on the list
 the bottom one is a zip with a massive amount of file and all try to run under dos command    so lead me though that one please

the result of the second to bottom you have
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 12, 2013, 06:32:15 pm
the one on 29.27 mb
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 12, 2013, 07:32:38 pm
the result see above  HUMM  result
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 14, 2013, 12:04:53 am
The system is really screwed up for some reason.

I have to check your past posts, but did you check the hard drive for bad sectors yet?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 14, 2013, 04:33:30 pm
sure have .... I cant just install a new version to much programs to loose , some cant be replaced
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 16, 2013, 12:14:18 pm
Is there anyway possible you can get me a screen shot of picture of the exact error when you try to do the repair install?

And before you try the repair install again try uninstalling your antivirus to make sure it isnt getting in the way. Also I know the repair install will write to the boot sector so the setup can continue. If there is a boot sector virus that could be stopping it.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 16, 2013, 02:21:33 pm
all anyvirus programs are removed first
no screen capture works that I know of on  a install as its a dedicated screen of windows
looks like I have toput up with these problems

any suggestins on the audio you have photos of that problem
also the net connection
 removing those two coupld assist
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 18, 2013, 12:39:43 pm
Problem is the are so many problems inside windows that we could be wasting a ton of time trying to fix those 2 when other things might be the cause.

Do you have a cell phone you could take a picture of the error for me at all? Or check and see if the setup made a log file I could read?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 18, 2013, 02:13:50 pm
will do
 try thi shot
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 19, 2013, 12:55:29 pm
Windows is in need of a reinstall bad. A lot of deep problems.

the SFC cant even run. And the repair reinstall wont either.

A fresh install would be best but I know how that is a pain. Our best bet is to find out why the repair install wont work and get it going. That repair install will fix a ton of these problems, as long as they are not hardware related :-)

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 21, 2013, 05:10:17 pm
  same as before
 try ti reinstall windows again this time be on the internet and down load updates



This is what I do
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 24, 2013, 05:46:14 pm
Sorry did really understand what you meant in the last post bud :-)

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 25, 2013, 02:21:42 pm
once the 64 java is downloaded  this happens when trying to run it
The java screen askes where on the computer it is to be installed   , then this is the next screen     see attachment photo  ????



 
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 25, 2013, 02:22:28 pm
windows update

with w7 update
 The install statrts and askes one to update any latest versions, I do this it updaes a file then continues to install   , it  copies all files   . then the message apears

Restart the install again this time when asked to install new updates do so  ...
its a circle 
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on December 27, 2013, 07:04:21 pm
You only need 64bit java for 64bit browsers, otherwise just install the 32 bit version.

And looks like MSI is messed up for it and you simply need to remove it from the windows installer, you can use this to do that :wink:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Secure-cleaning/Windows-Installer-CleanUp-Utility.shtml

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 27, 2013, 08:48:17 pm
down loaded that its shows many programs   so what do you mean by MSI is messed up ?????
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 28, 2013, 06:52:53 pm
MSI installer is the main source of downloading of many programs to your computer. It is microsoft office installer to install or uninstall many programs. If it is corrupted, then most of the program would not get installed and report error. This is true of java also.
                    I think that your computer needs fresh install altogether.
                    Your posts show, recurring of different problems at different times of posting. I had also had msi problem which could not be fixed by anything other than fresh install.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 28, 2013, 06:55:27 pm
MSI installer  how deos one try and fix this
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 28, 2013, 07:06:01 pm
There are repair tools available for msi installer, but if your registry entries are corrupted, it is not easy to repair with those programs. You could also may not able to see it in plain english in registry. There are millions of entries regarding msi, and that path could not be easily accessible. The main source of installer , if corrupted, could not be repaired with available tools.
                      So, it is better that you attempt fresh install which will remove all the system agony.I have tried deeply in to this, by going to the registry entries, it will be in coded words, not in plain english and nothing worked for me. Registry repair tool should have worked well, it replaces the default entries for all the registry main and subkeys, but it is not possible to delete those entries, created by the infected programs. So those key entries are there to create more problems. Fresh install is the best possible, or otherwise, repair install would be the last option to try.
                           
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on December 28, 2013, 07:10:35 pm
 what the problem if i try and over install with w8  , does the problems follow
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on December 28, 2013, 07:17:10 pm
Frankly i do not above windows 8, recent release.
But windows 7 has all the support, and full fledged release.
sevenforum and other sites deal mostly with windows seven forums.
Many automated tools and trouble shoot available.
For me it is the best supported. It automatically fixes so many problems, it has trouble shoot which is a useful tool for particular problem. It automates updated drivers for the hardware for workable condition.Sevenforums have unlimited topics of help,besides pcsupport com.
               In lighter vein, Why does not exhause the earlier features , than trying improved versions which are in beta stages
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 01, 2014, 02:47:12 pm
can anyone solve solve this windows protection problem  I think this should cure a lot of my problems
see attachment
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 01, 2014, 05:02:24 pm
Sorry for the late reply, my wife had our baby :-)

Sfc cant be fixed, it has to do with the winsxs folder and no known way to repair it except for a reinstall.

As for the cleanup tool. It is meant to remove an entry from the msi installer when you are unable to.

In this case java wont install because msi sees it as already installed but the install information is corrupt. So by removing java from the windows installer, the next time you try to install it the windows installer wont think it is installed and will install it fresh.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 01, 2014, 09:15:09 pm
For sfc /scannow not working, windows repair install is the only option.It seems that your msinstaller both program and registry entries are corrupt, or some files accidentally deleted this to function.Pl see this link and try to repair install
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 01, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
thanks  I have tried to do a upgrade but is stops and suggestes that next tim use the internet to get the latest update then re try
but that a loop going no were .  it just wont update
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 01, 2014, 11:46:47 pm
Where you able to find the setup log to find out what the error was with the repair install?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 01, 2014, 11:51:20 pm
where would that hide
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 01, 2014, 11:52:31 pm
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd744583%28v=ws.10%29.aspx

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 02, 2014, 12:36:20 am
whilst i take a look for the log
 this is an device manager
 see networks 
how can i get ride of the not wanted drivers , delete wont work
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 02, 2014, 01:01:00 am
Hi  I am trying to help you
      Shane meant the log file of system fatal error of install repair.
But you have given the print screen of the device manager. Pl enclose the log of the fatal error. You can uninstall all the exclamatory devices and then try to reboot, so that you see the problem still exist. If it is so, then you have to deeply analyse the event id in the event viewer.

               You could also try to run msinfo32.exe to get to the system information, and click problematic drivers over there and see what is giving the problem.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 02, 2014, 02:15:09 am
I realise that  but trying other bits to solve what i can  here is the result of this problem now how to solve the way to get ride of them
[Problem Devices]

Device   PNP Device ID   Error Code   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_AGILEVPNMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_L2TPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANBH\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANIP\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANIPV6\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_PPTPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_SSTPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 02, 2014, 02:19:52 am
Log Name:      System
Source:        Service Control Manager
Date:          1/2/2014 8:46:25 PM
Event ID:      7000
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Gizmo
Description:
The Diagnostic Service Host service failed to start due to the following error:
The account specified for this service is different from the account specified for other services running in the same process.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">7000</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-01-02T10:16:25.956054600Z" />
    <EventRecordID>767481</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="708" ThreadID="1708" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Gizmo</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="param1">Diagnostic Service Host</Data>
    <Data Name="param2">%%1079</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

and another

Log Name:      Setup
Source:        Microsoft-Windows-WUSA
Date:          12/24/2013 10:13:14 AM
Event ID:      3
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:     
User:          GIZMO\3dman
Computer:      Gizmo
Description:
Windows update  could not be installed because of error 2149842967 "" (Command line: ""C:\Windows\system32\wusa.exe" "C:\Windows6.1-KB969168-x64.msu"        ")
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-WUSA" Guid="{09608C12-C1DA-4104-A6FE-B959CF57560A}" />
    <EventID>3</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-12-23T23:43:14.058593700Z" />
    <EventRecordID>4431</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4364" ThreadID="3480" />
    <Channel>Setup</Channel>
    <Computer>Gizmo</Computer>
    <Security UserID="S-1-5-21-3825061916-1090540826-847719305-1000" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data Name="UpdateTitle">
    </Data>
    <Data Name="ErrorCode">2149842967</Data>
    <Data Name="ErrorString">
    </Data>
    <Data Name="CommandLine">"C:\Windows\system32\wusa.exe" "C:\Windows6.1-KB969168-x64.msu"        </Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>

Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 02, 2014, 02:27:21 am
Pl see this article , a lot of solution or workaround is given
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314357
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 05, 2014, 12:57:19 am
Holy crap my man lol The amount of things broken on your system is crazy and I am impressed the system is still running!

To be totally honest a fresh install would be the best for you. Back up your data and if you do a fresh install make sure to destroy the partition and recreate it in the windows setup, this way if you had any kind of boot record virus it would get destroyed.

If my customer came to me with your machine a fresh install is the fastest and best way to get you working back to normal again. You dont just have one problem you have tons! :wink:

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 05, 2014, 02:30:25 pm
it might seam strange to you but I am enjoying working through the problems , also I have some programs that cant be replaced with a new install , dont have the disc any more and its required in movie process

I have located all the miniport s in regeded and removed then , the device manager is now clean

The audio is turned on in the service but stll the audio device is not turned on, thats a mistory

I thinnk a problem is somehow tied up with who is the admistrator do alow a update .
the computer  shows I and a administrator on bootup now and there are two different desktop arrangements ,,,this could be a throw back from a few years ago when I had two  different version running on two drives, that was a advice from windows to cure a another problem a fresh install , then remove the old windows .
There is no evedence of the old windows on the other drive now , so maby thats only a assumption of mine

so now having what apears to be two different operators and the same faults  are on both log-ons could one be effecting the other ??

I hate windws 8 so at this stage thats not a option ,,, will play about , its still operational anyway just a few hickups
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 08, 2014, 02:46:11 pm
The repair install would allow you to keep your programs, but isnt guaranteed.

And I agree it is more fun to try and fix things. Every problem I have come across I have refused to give up on, after 18 years you get a lot of experience that way lol

But the problem is I dont have the machine in front of me to look and work on things. So with the large amount of problems you have I dont think you will be able to get it 100% again but you can definitely get it workable.

Problem is, helping over a forum I dont know what the next best thing for you to try is lol

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 03:59:23 pm
I have tries a majoc want but that only gets the blue screen of death :)
the sound got me wacked  it does not matter whats pluged into the front or back sockets its never shows in the system as operational  always disabled.

The d-link modem is operational but again it showes as not conneted to any network .... no home group shows and the make home group is greyed out as not a option
 no fault in the hardrives
all cleaned of virus and the like
reg shows as no faults
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 08, 2014, 06:35:18 pm
Hi I am also of the firm opinion, that you could reinstall windows 7 ultimate, which is a full fledged release of microsoft to your computer, rather than trying to fix .It is workable, but easily could be compromised if there is security holes in while trying fixes.
                   Now you say your audio and network is not working. There are windows files, which gets corrupted by virus, trojan, generic , autorun.inf and what not.
                    Just reinstall fresh and make your computer more secure. The fix would work, but the fix other than genuine sites would also "fix"your computer as a easy target.
                     I am one like you, and it gave me problems of hacking my account and unwanted popups.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 06:48:16 pm
if only it could be upgraded  so amny problem will vanish ... as explained re read what I have stated
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 06:53:00 pm
java after removal and installing 64 version it installs , then goes to veriforcation screen and thats all its a plank section  no veriforcation

as for the update problem  this might be a answer
 the log on is only i no otheres sharing  I would have thought that then I was the administrator , but  some of the fixes say other wise 
how can this be changed to every thing i do is in admistrator
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 06:56:14 pm
re java    afre removiing and installing 64 version it goes to a veriforacion screen but it shows a blank square instead of the aproval.

now as to the upgrade this might be a factor
some fixes show I am not the administrator, there is no other logon only mine , so how can this be , how can i make every thing i do be in adminustator
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 08, 2014, 06:59:20 pm
Hi   Create one user account as administrator, not standard user and you could access all the files. If some body also works on the computer, and he has given limited permissions to you, then you could not access. If you are the administrator, then there should be some corruption in user profile, which is one of the other major topic like winsxs folder.
                    Just create one account and log in that account to access
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 07:07:24 pm
as stated i should be the admisitrator   whats this  winsxs folder
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 08, 2014, 07:14:53 pm
You need not worry about this folder. It is microsoft folder, which will provide a missing file, if it is not found in the store to fix corrupted system protected files. What i suggested is to create another account in the same computer, as administrator. If even, after having the rights of admin, if you are facing some problems, this is because of some corruption of your current user profile which could not be fixed that easily. By creating a account as admin, a separate user folders will be created in c: users and it will create the necessary folders afresh, so that you do not have any problem in accessing. ok
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 08, 2014, 07:23:08 pm
tried that i have now two log ons  and still the update wont work in the new admisitrator
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 09, 2014, 05:29:37 pm
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx

Worth the read and you will see why when SFC is broken and the winsxs is broken a reinstall is the only way to fix that.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 15, 2014, 03:05:39 pm
getting stranger
I had to use a repair disc to rebbot the computer
if found a windows on B drive  but easy bcd shows C where it is

some time back I hav a second windows on b  but removed it
 perhaps it was not all removed and thhis cound be why it wont  update as it find b drive

there is a outdate hiberfil.sys still on B and that cant be remover l
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 15, 2014, 04:46:42 pm
Can you post a screen shot?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 15, 2014, 04:57:13 pm
it simply states in the bax  : fould windws ultra in drive B
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 15, 2014, 04:58:51 pm
I mean in Windows if you can take a screen shot of the contents of drive B so I can see what is on there and why it thinks windows is there.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 15, 2014, 05:03:09 pm
done
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 17, 2014, 10:32:01 am
I see folders there from windows being on that drive, dont see the windows folder though.

I also wonder if the boot sector on the drive is still set for windows and might be why it is being seen as a windows drive.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 17, 2014, 02:28:07 pm
easy bcd does not see b as a bootable drive for windows only c
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 18, 2014, 06:58:16 am
It is better that you fresh install the windows.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 18, 2014, 01:31:35 pm
upgrade would be prefered but thts not possible at this time , fresh install would loose to many non replacable programs
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 18, 2014, 05:30:26 pm
hi-xenon
                       I also agree repair install would be the best course. But it depends on not only the dvd you have in your disk.
                         Upgrade will not work, if suppose, you update any service pack in the system which is not present in your dvd. There is no other option. You cannot roll back your service pack. There will be no of solutions, but no one will work. I have tried slip streaming techniques, but it is not working. There are plenty of programs in this regard which will not work, because, if you updated your service pack, there is a back up file created and all the files are stored in different system folders. There by, if you insert and get in to the menu of upgrade, it will check your dvd which is lower version, when compared to the hard disk which is having higher version. So, there will be a message showing that the version you are trying to upgrade is already present in the system and it will not go any further. I hope you understand this. I have tried slip streaming thro the techniques, by trying to remove the service pack already installed. There is no solution for this. Once installed, it is not possible to remove from the system, because it will not allow you and you will be given error message, whatever the solution you come across. So, only i advise you to fresh install, though you lose your other programs.
                          Hi Shane, would not system tool's Windows easy transer would come in help for mr.xenon to copy the entire thing to another computer and then reinstall fresh os in the problematic computer. I will also try another solutions, if any, in copying safely all the programs to another computer.
                           Hi xenon, there is Windows easy transfer a tool available in Windows 7, which will just allow to copy all the contents of the computer to another computer in a easy way. You have to go to Run command, and then type migwiz and you can see the wizard helping you all the way. I do not know, whether it keeps the program  in c drive. Please note that nothing is deleted from old computer, when copying ok. This may help you even in transfering your user accounts to the new computer. Googling for help, will enable to find whether the user programs could be transfered. I will also try to add.
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 18, 2014, 07:28:58 pm
realy appresiated all the assistance
I dnt have another compyter to transfer
I installed wise care and for some reasons it now downloads windows update file even though it shows  it cant nessage in the control pannel
the net now runs at full speed and this also shows in the control pannel no network
might try a lot of these programs possible that one could fix anothe part the sound
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 18, 2014, 07:40:43 pm
It is well nigh impossible if you do not have a computer
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 20, 2014, 10:40:00 am
Its a problem for a lot of people. They have a program they MUST have and they lost the installer for it and the program is to old to get a copy of.

Sooner or later, like when the hard drive dies the user will have no choice but to move on. But until that is forced you wont get a user to do it lol

When a program is installed it all depends on the program, but files, regkeys and all sorts get modified and added to the system. thats why you cant just move it to a new system. Thats one reason why people love portable versions of programs, no installer needed as it has every thing it needs in the folder.

But almost all older programs are not that way and will have a ton of things added to the system for it to work. MS office is a good example.

So right now xenon is in a tight spot. A broken OS that is limping along but all those programs that cant get reinstalled. Only thing he can do before reinstalling is try everything possible to fix what is broken. But the bad news is the core of Windows is broken and one thing after another is failing.

Instead of trying to find a way to avoid a reinstall I say focus on finding a way to get your programs moved and workable! Would be easier and better at this point. :wink:

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 20, 2014, 02:21:17 pm
in the real worl all is fixable:   apreciate your comments and advice
the problem is mine are dedicated programs that are movie orinated that work , two of them are no longer availabe more the pity and so far no other company has come close to replicate
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: jraju on January 21, 2014, 03:53:03 am
Hi Shane thanks for the clarification and now i am well informed. Thank you once again
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 23, 2014, 03:07:22 pm
OH boy we do have fun :)
refer to the sound problem see the attachment set before
I removed the sound cand via the bios and then all references to it in windows , drivers
 purchased a stand alone card and its drivers,   once installed in its own program its has a test buttom for the speakers , hitting it it produces sound great
the problem is no windows program sees it   in the control pannel of the speakers it shows the audio devise is not installed
and in the problem solution it show audio disabled.      in the service both audio are running
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 23, 2014, 05:17:44 pm
Go to sounds in the control panel and post a screen shot for me, I want to see what is set as the default playback device.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 23, 2014, 08:48:56 pm
as requested 

also the task manager is not showing full any more
must have done sometihng to it by mistake
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 23, 2014, 09:52:50 pm
this is the problem  once a right click on the device it locks up the screen in sound
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 09:45:57 am
as requested 

also the task manager is not showing full any more
must have done sometihng to it by mistake

Just double click the border and it will come back :-)

And I was hoping for a screen shot like this one

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 02:11:03 pm
i did post it but here it is again
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 02:13:02 pm
I need the whole window. The microphone shouldnt be on the playback section just like you dont see it in my screen shot, it should be on the recording tab. So I need a screen of the whole window so I can see what your in and what tab.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 02:30:16 pm
here is all there is
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 02:32:15 pm
and this one
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 02:43:13 pm
OK on the playback tab, right click in the list and click on show disabled devices. And post a screen shot for me.

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 02:52:51 pm
can capture the second screen   it show disable device  ticked
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 02:55:10 pm
OK then. I had a customer who had no sound and he had the wrong device set as default and had disabled his correct one, so I wanted to double check that on yours. :wink:

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 02:59:45 pm
any idear why this and the other card is staying disables from windows
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 03:01:35 pm
I havent seen that problem before, is the windows audio service running?

Shane
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 03:03:55 pm
sure is  try this here is the new card controler   using it the speaker work left & right
no other program give sound
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: xenon on January 24, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
how can i get task manager fully opened again
Title: Re: strange problems
Post by: Shane on January 24, 2014, 03:50:20 pm
how can i get task manager fully opened again

Double click the outside border :wink:

Shane