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Re: strange problems
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2013, 02:21:33 pm »
all anyvirus programs are removed first
no screen capture works that I know of on  a install as its a dedicated screen of windows
looks like I have toput up with these problems

any suggestins on the audio you have photos of that problem
also the net connection
 removing those two coupld assist

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2013, 12:39:43 pm »
Problem is the are so many problems inside windows that we could be wasting a ton of time trying to fix those 2 when other things might be the cause.

Do you have a cell phone you could take a picture of the error for me at all? Or check and see if the setup made a log file I could read?

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2013, 02:13:50 pm »
will do
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Re: strange problems
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2013, 12:55:29 pm »
Windows is in need of a reinstall bad. A lot of deep problems.

the SFC cant even run. And the repair reinstall wont either.

A fresh install would be best but I know how that is a pain. Our best bet is to find out why the repair install wont work and get it going. That repair install will fix a ton of these problems, as long as they are not hardware related :-)

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2013, 05:10:17 pm »
  same as before
 try ti reinstall windows again this time be on the internet and down load updates



This is what I do

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2013, 05:46:14 pm »
Sorry did really understand what you meant in the last post bud :-)

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2013, 02:21:42 pm »
once the 64 java is downloaded  this happens when trying to run it
The java screen askes where on the computer it is to be installed   , then this is the next screen     see attachment photo  ????



 

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2013, 02:22:28 pm »
windows update

with w7 update
 The install statrts and askes one to update any latest versions, I do this it updaes a file then continues to install   , it  copies all files   . then the message apears

Restart the install again this time when asked to install new updates do so  ...
its a circle 

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2013, 07:04:21 pm »
You only need 64bit java for 64bit browsers, otherwise just install the 32 bit version.

And looks like MSI is messed up for it and you simply need to remove it from the windows installer, you can use this to do that :wink:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Secure-cleaning/Windows-Installer-CleanUp-Utility.shtml

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2013, 08:48:17 pm »
down loaded that its shows many programs   so what do you mean by MSI is messed up ?????

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2013, 06:52:53 pm »
MSI installer is the main source of downloading of many programs to your computer. It is microsoft office installer to install or uninstall many programs. If it is corrupted, then most of the program would not get installed and report error. This is true of java also.
                    I think that your computer needs fresh install altogether.
                    Your posts show, recurring of different problems at different times of posting. I had also had msi problem which could not be fixed by anything other than fresh install.
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2013, 06:55:27 pm »
MSI installer  how deos one try and fix this

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2013, 07:06:01 pm »
There are repair tools available for msi installer, but if your registry entries are corrupted, it is not easy to repair with those programs. You could also may not able to see it in plain english in registry. There are millions of entries regarding msi, and that path could not be easily accessible. The main source of installer , if corrupted, could not be repaired with available tools.
                      So, it is better that you attempt fresh install which will remove all the system agony.I have tried deeply in to this, by going to the registry entries, it will be in coded words, not in plain english and nothing worked for me. Registry repair tool should have worked well, it replaces the default entries for all the registry main and subkeys, but it is not possible to delete those entries, created by the infected programs. So those key entries are there to create more problems. Fresh install is the best possible, or otherwise, repair install would be the last option to try.
                           
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2013, 07:10:35 pm »
 what the problem if i try and over install with w8  , does the problems follow

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2013, 07:17:10 pm »
Frankly i do not above windows 8, recent release.
But windows 7 has all the support, and full fledged release.
sevenforum and other sites deal mostly with windows seven forums.
Many automated tools and trouble shoot available.
For me it is the best supported. It automatically fixes so many problems, it has trouble shoot which is a useful tool for particular problem. It automates updated drivers for the hardware for workable condition.Sevenforums have unlimited topics of help,besides pcsupport com.
               In lighter vein, Why does not exhause the earlier features , than trying improved versions which are in beta stages
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2014, 02:47:12 pm »
can anyone solve solve this windows protection problem  I think this should cure a lot of my problems
see attachment

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2014, 05:02:24 pm »
Sorry for the late reply, my wife had our baby :-)

Sfc cant be fixed, it has to do with the winsxs folder and no known way to repair it except for a reinstall.

As for the cleanup tool. It is meant to remove an entry from the msi installer when you are unable to.

In this case java wont install because msi sees it as already installed but the install information is corrupt. So by removing java from the windows installer, the next time you try to install it the windows installer wont think it is installed and will install it fresh.

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2014, 09:15:09 pm »
For sfc /scannow not working, windows repair install is the only option.It seems that your msinstaller both program and registry entries are corrupt, or some files accidentally deleted this to function.Pl see this link and try to repair install
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2014, 09:49:41 pm »
thanks  I have tried to do a upgrade but is stops and suggestes that next tim use the internet to get the latest update then re try
but that a loop going no were .  it just wont update

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2014, 11:46:47 pm »
Where you able to find the setup log to find out what the error was with the repair install?

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2014, 11:51:20 pm »
where would that hide

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2014, 12:36:20 am »
whilst i take a look for the log
 this is an device manager
 see networks 
how can i get ride of the not wanted drivers , delete wont work

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2014, 01:01:00 am »
Hi  I am trying to help you
      Shane meant the log file of system fatal error of install repair.
But you have given the print screen of the device manager. Pl enclose the log of the fatal error. You can uninstall all the exclamatory devices and then try to reboot, so that you see the problem still exist. If it is so, then you have to deeply analyse the event id in the event viewer.

               You could also try to run msinfo32.exe to get to the system information, and click problematic drivers over there and see what is giving the problem.
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: strange problems
« Reply #49 on: January 02, 2014, 02:15:09 am »
I realise that  but trying other bits to solve what i can  here is the result of this problem now how to solve the way to get ride of them
[Problem Devices]

Device   PNP Device ID   Error Code   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_AGILEVPNMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_L2TPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANBH\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANIP\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_NDISWANIPV6\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_PPTPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.   
Not Available   ROOT\MS_SSTPMINIPORT\0000   This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device.