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It took much more time and effort than expectable, but Shane wouldn't let it go till identified and solved. Many-many thanks and admiration again.


Re-formulation for clarity (November 3):

1. I type any program name, e.g. cmd, notepad, etc. in the search pane.
a. If I double left-click on it, it starts to run.
b. If I right click, then choose the menu item 'Run as Administrator' nothing happens.

2. I go to any program’s, e.g. cmd, notepad, etc.,  exe file in the respective program folder, and right click, then choose the menu item 'Run as Administrator' it starts to run as administrator.

That is, the issue is with merely the shortcut.

I'm not aware of anything else that can go wrong with a shortcut than its registration. Of course, a. anything may exist beyond my rather limited knowledge; b. even if I'm right in that, I have no idea which registration key to change and how.

I hope for one of these kinds of answers:
1. Oh, it's not registration, go to this place in control panel and change this preference; or: download and run this utility, etc., or
2. Yes, it's registry issue, change this registry key this way.
(end of revision)



If I right click a program (cmd, notepad, etc.) from start or start/search {corrected: and choose 'Run as Administrator'} nothing happens. I can run anything as admin directly from the exe files though.

Added later:

I clicked 'open file location', got to AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs and experienced the same malfunction. When, however, in case of cmd,  clicked 'open file location' again, I got to the System32 folder, and here I found OK;
i.e., the shortcuts to AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs seem to be the culprit. Possibly their registration? (end of addition)

sfc/scannow or Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /Restorehealth don't help and I can't find which option to choose from Tweaking's repair.

Thanks a lot.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 02:24:47 am by Shane »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 04:51:14 am »
Hi, The shortcuts of cmd and notepad would have been corrupted .
             Delete these short cuts and then create short cuts from the location of the exe folders of these programs. You could right click the properties to know the program path. Or type cmd or notepad in the ORB in the Start menu. Go to the file location, and then create new short cut the exe, by right clicking the said exes and then copy . You will receive an alert that short cut could not be made in that folder and say yes to the desktop folder. Now you try to run these, if these runs, then your problem  is solved
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2014, 08:22:34 pm »
All shortcuts work for normal running, none (from start to any program, not only to cmd and notepad) for elevated. Doesn't it mean a single, mutual issue with delegating administrator's rights to these?

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2014, 11:18:01 pm »
Hi, Do you mean the short cut for any program does not work on Run as Administrator, but works in normal condition? Do you want to make them only run as Run as admin? Please clearly tell your issue so that solution flows easily.
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 11:52:06 pm »
Hi,

I'm sorry, I left a few key words: 'If I right click a program (cmd, notepad, etc.) from start or start/search and choose 'Run as Administrator' nothing happens.' (it is noted though in the title of the post)

No other issue, e.g. with double left-click for running as normal.

I don't want to make them run as admin only, I just wish to maintain the choice to run as normal, or when need be, run as admin.

I do have this choice at the exe files (as mentioned initially), but it is also offered at the short cuts in start. Nothing but the failure  of this option is my problem. I only want to make the right-menu point 'Run as Administrator' do so when chosen.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 12:02:44 am by George »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 03:29:29 am »
When you double click the program just press Ctrl and Shift, It will run as administrator. Try this. Is this what you want? If you are having problem in the exe, then this will not work even for normal clicks
« Last Edit: November 01, 2014, 03:31:15 am by jraju »
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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 03:30:23 am »
I'm not sure if either of these articles will help, but each has a performance troubleshooting link which normally checks for broken shortcuts which may reinstate the admin option.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/reset-windows-store-cache

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-8-apps-troubleshooter

If the icon cache has become corrupt, then this article may help http://www.thewindowsclub.com/rebuild-the-icon-cache-windows

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 09:03:55 pm »
Hi jraju, this happens:
At search cmd:

double left click: runs normal
double left click with ctr+shift: nothing
right click, choose run as admin: nothing

'open file location' (AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs):
double left click: runs normal
double left click with ctr+shift: runs normal
right click, choose run as admin: nothing

In C:\Windows\System32:
double left click: runs normal
double left click with ctr+shift: runs normal
right click, choose run as admin: runs as admin

I would only like this: At search cmd:
double left click: runs normal
right click, choose run as admin: runs as admin


Hi Boggin,

These articles contain several links, I couldn't find any reference to shortcuts or admin rights though. Which should I try?

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 11:43:32 pm »
pl try this
ctrl shift and enter
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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 11:52:48 pm »
'open file location' takes me to AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Windows/Start Menu/Programs.
If, in case of cmd, I click 'open file location' again, I get to the System32 folder, where my problematic point works well. Couldn't we repair the shortcuts to  ....Start Menu/Programs?
« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 12:15:54 am by George »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 12:16:54 am »
Hi, Did you try crl shift and enter. Just place the cursor on the program icon and then do this. This should work. It has worked for me
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 01:44:48 am »
I'd misunderstood your opening post in thinking it was desktop icons that weren't working but this article explains how to run programs as an admin in Win 8 http://www.intowindows.com/run-program-as-administrator-in-windows-8/ which also suggests CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER for which you may also need to be in Metro.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 01:54:36 am by Boggin »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 05:30:35 am »
CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER opens the programs as normal, just like simple double click.
Anyway, I can run anything as administrator from the exe files, if no idea to get the right-menu item alive, let's leave it.
Thank you both.

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 08:49:34 am »
CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER opens the programs as normal, just like simple double click.
Anyway, I can run anything as administrator from the exe files, if no idea to get the right-menu item alive, let's leave it.
Thank you both.

Did you read the article I'd linked ?

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 07:30:03 pm »
I had read the article you, Boggin linked. That is about how to run a program as administrator in Windows 8 when everything is working fine.  I can get the right-menu containing 'Run as Administrator' both from start and at the respective exe files. This is supposed to work the same in both cases. In my case it does at the exe, does not from the start menu. My issue is how to make it run in the latter case.

What you quoted from me is, of course, not what is in the article. That's my problem, my system malfunctions.
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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2014, 08:58:36 pm »
Hi, The "Run as admin" is a property of the executable, not the shortcut. You should add the required manifest that makes Windows prompt for elevation.
                  If you would like to have it in short cut also, you have to make change in the registry. Do you want it?
The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2014, 09:04:51 pm »
Yep, jrjau, my uneducated guess from the first instance was that this is a registry issue. The shortcut should be registered to contain this function but for some reason it's been lost. If you know how to fix it, please tell me. (As I mentioned, it's for all shortcuts, not for cmd only.)
« Last Edit: November 02, 2014, 09:07:36 pm by George »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 01:18:05 am »
Have you tried running sfc /scannow in Safe Mode ?

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2014, 02:25:14 am »
Hi, Boggins, George wants the available exes aside from windows protected exe, to open as admin only from the shortcut.
                       
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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2014, 03:17:32 am »
Hi, Boggins, George wants the available exes aside from windows protected exe, to open as admin only from the shortcut.
                     

Ah, thought he just wanted the option to run as an admin.

The Safe Mode sfc /scannow could still reinstate whatever is causing the problem.

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2014, 05:38:03 am »
I presumed the problem was simple, only the solution could be sophisticated. In case I'm wrong:

1. I type any program name, e.g. cmd, notepad, etc. in the search pane.
a. If I double left-click on it, it starts to run.
b. If I right click, then choose the menu item 'Run as Administrator' nothing happens.

2. I go to any program's, e.g. cmd, notepad, etc.,  exe file in the respective program folder, and right click, then choose the menu item 'Run as Administrator' it starts to run as administrator.

That is, the issue is with merely the shortcut.

I'm not aware of anything else that can go wrong with a shortcut than its registration. Of course, a. anything may exist beyond my rather limited knowledge; b. even if I'm right in that, I have no idea which registration key to change and how.

I hope for one of these kinds of answers:
1. Oh, it's not registration, go to this place in control panel and change this preference; or: download and run this utility, etc., or
2. Yes, it's registry issue, change this register key this way.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2014, 05:41:32 am by George »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2014, 09:12:38 am »
Creating a new admin account may do it, but if not then you're probably looking at least a Refresh http://www.thewindowsclub.com/lost-administrative-rights-in-windows

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2014, 06:29:40 pm »

2. I go to any program's, e.g. cmd, notepad, etc.,  exe file in the respective program folder, and right click, then choose the menu item 'Run as Administrator' it starts to run as administrator.

That is, the issue is with merely the shortcut.


I did not loose administrator's rights.

Anyway, I can run anything as administrator from the exe files, if no idea to get the right-menu item alive, let's leave it.
Thank you.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2014, 06:37:03 pm by George »

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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2014, 07:13:50 pm »
Hi, George,
                       Shall I suggest that you could easily run the programs only on administation? I presume that you do not want to run as standard some of the programs.
                           If you want to assign admin right to particular programs, then you could well to go to the properties of the short cut of the program, by right clicking it, and then go to advanced mode and click Run as Administrator box, Now you will see a blue window admin symbol in the short cut of the program. Likewise, you could select the shortcuts of those programs and do the same. Is this what you want? This may be the solution, but there is no  shortcut for applying all the programs as admin.
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Re: Shortcuts from start to 'Run as administrator' don't work (Win 8.1 x64)
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2014, 07:23:54 pm »
Hi jraju,

The shortcuts to run any program from the start menu either as normal or admin is a simple service in windows. I lost the half of it, hoped to get it back easily. If not, I can go to the exe files, when I want to run them as admin, and do so there. A bit inconvenient but no big deal. Let's leave it at that.
Thank you.