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refresh failure
« on: May 31, 2015, 04:44:41 pm »
Thanks to everyone who has helped, sadly it made situation worse.

My drive is bitlocked. Has no errors. Refresh failed and now wont boot.


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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 01:23:26 pm »
So the windows 8 refresh didnt work and made it worse? Have you decrypted the drive yet by any chance? You should be able to even if you cant get into windows.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mspfe/archive/2013/04/04/computer-crash-how-to-use-manage-bde-to-recover-a-partially-decrypted-hard-drive.aspx

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 01:56:07 pm »
Got back in, and refresh fails at 1%. This is to do with security being changed.  Is there a batch file to reset all to defaults.

God I hate winblowz so much.

Wish I hadn't start this mess. 20 bad files and now 166 with bad signatures.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 02:17:58 pm »
From what I have found it isnt a file permissions problem but a possible corrupt registry, try this
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2823223
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http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-8-fails-to-boot-automatic-repair-refresh-reset-pc-fail

Basically you just rename the system hive file and the software hive file, see how that does for you, make sure to only rename them and dont delete them.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 02:30:57 pm »
I have no ideas

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2015, 02:35:32 pm »
No ideas for what? Are you not able to rename those files?

Also have you ran a memory test on the system yet? The problems you are having are all so random, like I said in the your other thread, I run my windows repairs on windows 8 all the time and never had this trouble, so something else is going on.

So we need to cover all the bases and make sure it isnt a hardware problem, such as a bad memory module. :wink:

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2015, 02:42:58 pm »
Memory fine,
hard drive checks with no error
Unable to install updates or remove updates
Can't add feature net3.5
20 missing files / 166 not valid.
Updates that are not in update list are showing as installed when trying to reinstall.

Renaming both hives will stop refresh. You have to so reinstall, which kind of defeats the issue.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2015, 02:48:28 pm »
I am looking at the list of files and it is odd that I dont have a single one of them in my file repository. I am going to go hunt them down, have you put them in the packages folder, you can backup the folder first if you like and then try updates after a reboot. We wont need to run any repairs.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2015, 02:53:09 pm »
Give me 10mins and ill send the current lists.


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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2015, 02:55:17 pm »
Sounds good, I have Windows 8 x86 in vmware, a lot of updates I havent done yet, doing them now so i can get the cat and mum files. Also looked at some of the updates in your lists that are missing and grabbing them as well from https://catalog.update.microsoft.com  :cheesy:

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2015, 03:03:24 pm »
Thanks... Shame cant install updates   :undecided:

As above, those updates it's says has already been installed, but they are not in list.
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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2015, 03:35:23 pm »
No problem, I am going through each file and getting its KB and then going and grabbing each one. There is a lot! So give me some time, I am still working on it and getting the files as we speak :-)

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2015, 04:04:10 pm »
Tweaking.com - Windows Repair - Pre-Scan
Computer: UPSTAIRS (Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 6.3.9600 ) (32-bit)
Started at (01/06/2015 23:31:48)
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Scanning Windows Packages Files.
Started at (01/06/2015 23:31:48)

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C:\WINDOWS\servicing\Packages\Package_for_KB3047641_RTM~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.mum
C:\WINDOWS\servicing\Packages\Package_for_KB3047641~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.mum
C:\WINDOWS\servicing\Packages\Package_for_KB3049508_RTM~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.1.mum
C:\WINDOWS\servicing\Packages\Package_for_KB3049508~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.1.mum

Problems were found with the packages files, these files need to be replaced (These mainly only effect installing Windows Updates.)
The SFC (System File Checker) doesn't scan and replace some of these files, so you may need to replace them manually.
These files do not keep the repairs from working, you may still run the repairs in the program.

If you need help in replacing these files, post on the Forums at Tweaking.com for help.

Files Checked & Verified: 7,372

Done (01/06/2015 23:41:50)
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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2015, 04:07:32 pm »
Ok here we go, I was able to get all the files except just a few, these

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Package_1_for_KB2889543~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.cat
Package_1_for_KB2889543~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.mum
Package_for_KB2889543_RTM~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.cat
Package_for_KB2889543_RTM~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.mum
Package_for_KB2889543~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.cat
Package_for_KB2889543~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.3.1.0.mum

Which is no longer available because it was a bad update and it was replaced
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2889543

So that means we just need to remove those entries from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Component Based Servicing\Packages for those files, which should only be 3 entries. So remove those from there, when you do Windows and my program will stop looking for it. Windows updates and my pre scan look at the entries there to know what files to look at.

Next I have all the other files. As you know extract the zip file and put all the files in C:\Windows\servicing\Packages overwriting any that are there. Some of the missing files had to do with a .net 3.5 update, so that might explain the trouble you had with it.

Once done you have to reboot, then try windows updates again, do worry about my pre scan yet and lets see how it goes :-)

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2015, 04:18:53 pm »
Removed 3 from registery


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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2015, 04:20:01 pm »
OK good, thats how we can get windows to not look at old, replaced updates :-)

I updated the attached files as well :wink:

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2015, 04:23:40 pm »
Do I need to take control of folder

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2015, 04:24:41 pm »
If you ran my permissions repair then yes you should since the permissions would have been set back to default.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2015, 04:26:12 pm »
Okay. Trying now.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2015, 04:46:12 pm »
Okay done and rebooted

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2015, 05:02:45 pm »
OK good, lets see how things go now, try a few things and see how it does. We can also do a pre- scan just to see what it finds, it might still return the mum files as being bad since we didnt add the cat files back, but I am not worried about that :-)

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2015, 05:04:39 pm »
Adding feature net3.5 failed

Prescan shows 177 bad.

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2015, 05:09:14 pm »
Post the pre scan log for me.

Also what does the event viewer show when trying to add .net 3.5?

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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2015, 05:25:58 pm »
Pre scan attached i think

Event viewer : Status 0x80070bc9

IIS-webserver package failed to turn on


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Re: refresh failure
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2015, 05:30:00 pm »
I love the stuff :-)

Ok here is what I would like you to do next. Use this .net removal tool, run it as administrator and have it remove every single version of .net on the system.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx

Then once done reboot, you will get some errors about .net, you can ignore them. Then download and install .net with its offline installer
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42642

Once done reboot, I have noticed that with Windows more and more things depend on .net and if it is broken in any way all things go crazy. The only real way to fix .net is by completely removing it and installing it fresh. :wink:

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