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Repair System Restore
« on: October 31, 2011, 02:13:24 AM »
Hello, and thank you for the great Windows Repair Tool. I'm a SysAdmin in my factory and Consultant for our customers too, and I have recently encountered some bugs on many pc with the System Restore function on Windows Vista and Seven, especially on 64 bit editions. The problem is when I try to restore system using a previously made System Restore Point (manual or automatic give the same result), Windows tries to restore the system but on some pc it fails, even with a lot of hard drive space. What does it can be? I think a Windows Vista/7 bug. No Microsoft Fix it patch resolve. It shoud be cool if you can add a Repair System Restore new function in your Windows Repair Tool. Thanx, bye.
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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool new function - Repair System Restore
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2011, 11:56:05 AM »
@Hexist: Did you try ""ERUNTgui"" ? It's program that once installed automatically makes a copy of (important parts of) the registry at startup. When there's a problem then you can restore the registry comparatively easy.

http://www.freewaregenius.com/2010/11/08/erunt-gui-backup-and-restore-your-registry-with-a-single-click/

Or try ""Regbak"":
http://www.acelogix.com/freeware.html
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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool new function - Repair System Restore
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2011, 11:58:27 AM »
Hello, and thank you for the great Windows Repair Tool. I'm a SysAdmin in my factory and Consultant for our customers too, and I have recently encountered some bugs on many pc with the System Restore function on Windows Vista and Seven, especially on 64 bit editions. The problem is when I try to restore system using a previously made System Restore Point (manual or automatic give the same result), Windows tries to restore the system but on some pc it fails, even with a lot of hard drive space. What does it can be? I think a Windows Vista/7 bug. No Microsoft Fix it patch resolve. It shoud be cool if you can add a Repair System Restore new function in your Windows Repair Tool. Thanx, bye.

It all depends what is broke about it. Many different parts can malfunction. The trick is finding which part, then I can make a repair for it :wink:

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool new function - Repair System Restore
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 06:21:35 AM »
Thank you Willy2. I use EruNT regularly since Windows 95...
It is really safe and useful but is not the same thing. It backups only the registry, not the programs and data.
Actually I'm forced to use COMODO Time Machine, the only one multi O.S. (windows nt only) freeware and my problem is solved,
but this situation should not be. Microsoft System Restore should.

This is a post for requests: I posted a "request"

Bye  :sleep:

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool new function - Repair System Restore
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 06:30:45 AM »
Hi Shane, I know that is what happens but I don't know why and what was broken.
(Is for this reason that I posted my request...  :confused: )

So, I think that a generic bug could be require a generic fix
("Why fix what is broken?" "To make it working again"). :smiley:

For example I should start to unregister then re-register all dll/ocx
concerning System Restore Function (even I'll know);
I mean, like programs as Dial-a-Fix, FixWin, 7 QuickFix, etc.

I think this could be a first step to have a fix.

Bye!
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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool new function - Repair System Restore
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 09:50:38 AM »
The thing with system restore is it uses a number of different things.

It uses the Volume shadow copy service (Which I already have a repair for)
It also has to have permissions to the files and reg keys (Which are also already in the program)
I also already have a register systems files repair that helps a lot as well.

What I need is a way to pinpoint more of what error your getting is, then this will tell me where i need to dig in.
If it is a permissions problem then the program has your fix. Or does it need files registered again? If so I need to find out what files it needs and add them to the register system files repair.

Do you get any kind of error code or number? Or does it just say it failed to restore?

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 11:55:50 PM »
What you say is right: sorry, I had not thought about this...  :rolleyes:

Currently no kind of repair works, and I have no error codes when it fails, only the message that System Restore has failed (neither an old one).

OK, so I'm going to compare a safe S.O with a broken S.O. with Nirsoft ActiveXHelper to get two global difference lists of registered files in my systems.
Then I'll post you a full report.

Thanks again,
Hexist
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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 12:42:54 PM »
Great, let me know what you find.

For some reason I cant seem to find anything on the net about what files system restore needs.

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 01:58:20 AM »
No way. ActiveXHelper gives to me too many entries to compare (more than 7000!!!): i left it.  :shocked:
Then I have googled for hours to find anything useful but as has happened to you too, I've found few things.
Finally one of these has resolved my problem, but I think it's not possible to embed in your software (it's a sin).

However, if this method can help someone, look at:
http://www.consideritfixed.com/2011/02/what-to-do-when-system-restore-fails.html
It worked for me. So if you whish you may close the topic.

I stay in touch.

Bye Shane!

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 07:24:08 AM »
Hello to everyone!
Here I post some of my advices regarding how to try to solve this particular problem when the system restore function doesn't work.
Scanning hard drive for malicious codes using an operational system independent program such as Kaspersky Rescue CD or Dr. Web Rescue CD.
Checking file system integrity by using a tool that could be run from within Windows or from a CD.
Trying to see if the system restore function starts in safe booting mode.
If it doesn't we may use one of the rescue type CDs that can perform many repair functions including system restore and  run independently from an operational system, such as ERD or O&O Bluecone.
If these programs report that there are no restore points it means that the corresponding files have been seriously damaged or deleted from the hard drive.
Obviously anyone can further tinker with the data stored on the hard drive; both visible and invisible to an operational system. My 20 year long experience tells me though that
saving important data and reinstalling the operational system is probably the best option to make the computer be fully operational again.
Certainly having a backup (image) of our operational system stored in other partition or in an external hard drive can save us a lot of time and efforts.

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 01:10:25 PM »
The goal of the Windows repair tool is to try and fix as much as it can so the users doesn't need to reinstall.

Granted I firmly believe a reinstall is always the best. But I am also a tech and know how to do it very easily. But a lot of home users don't, and a lot don't have the money to pay someone. So the goal is to try and find a way to repair the system restore. Whats is odd is how Microsoft themselves have nothing on the topic that I can find.

The ironic part of my Windows repair tool, so far a ton of techs who tried it love it. Because they understand it. A lot of home users who don't have a clue don't know if it worked or not and then give it a 1 star rating because they don't understand. A double edge sword indeed.

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 07:31:07 AM »
Hi Shane!
After reading your last post I want to add up a few more comments.
As we know any tool has its limitations.
I suggest you to write a list of scenarios when using your tool may be helpful to repair a damaged operational system, when likely it won't help and also when other steps have to be taken before even trying to apply your tool.
An example of it: a laptop`s operational system suddenly doesn't load and the computer reinitiates itself perpetually. The close analysis reveals that the cause of the problem is the overheated hard drive resulting in damaged sectors of the HD on the magnetic level. The simple solution: running one of the sector repairing tools for instance HDD REGENERATOR. In the case of a large volume hard drive the repairing procedure may last even for several hours; however it runs automatically and once started it usually doesn't need any further attention. When the process is finished I frequently find the operational system working again perfectly well; no other action is needed.
I could write a long article sharing my experiences in repairing damaged operational systems however the bottom line of performing Window´s repair is getting rid of malicious codes from the hard drive. This sometimes is very tricky and difficult and by using just one antivirus program we often don't succeed.

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 12:42:39 PM »
Feel free to post any repair or tweak guides here.
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/board,4.0.html

It will defiantly help others. And for repairs that I am able to add, they will be part of the windows repair tool :-)

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Re: Request: Windows Repair Tool - Repair System Restore
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 01:36:52 PM »
As an alternate method of fixing this problem, D7 has a "Repair System Restore" tool in it.  I have not used it as I have never had this problem, so I cannot verify if it works or not.  Read more and download here:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/D7_d6954.html

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Re: Repair System Restore
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2011, 07:17:45 AM »
This is what "Repair System Restore" does in D7:

Deletes reg value DisableConfig in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\SystemRestore
Deletes reg value DisableSR in HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\SystemRestore
(On WinXP) - rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 132 C:\WINDOWS\inf\sr.inf


You can see for your self here:
https://sites.google.com/a/obxcompguy.com/foolish-it/d7/online-manual/usage/repair-tab

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