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jraju:
Hi, marco,
See Post no 3 of this thread.
jraju:
Hi, Shane did you try Run command from the hidden thing in safe mode. I do not have windows 8 to test it
Rick:
--- Quote from: Julian on October 14, 2015, 12:17:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: Shane on October 13, 2015, 02:34:57 am ---IN a upcoming update to my Windows repair tool I am moving a lot of the text in the main window of the program to a help file because of how cluttered I think it is.
Since it will have a help file this also means I can finally add a lot more things to it for the users who need it.
one of the things that I need to add is how to get out safe mode. But that isnt the correct term.
What is happening for some people is on Windows 8 and 10, they are using their online accounts, no big deal. but for some reason MS has safe mode set to use a different password their then online one, and a lot of users cant remember what that password was.
Safe mode is part of Windows and my program calls the bcdedit command to have the bott manager set to always boot into safe mode. Well if the user cant login the program is unable to run the command to turn that off and now they are stuck.
So If anyone wants to help me write a guide of ways to have the boot manger remove the safe boot options outside of windows would be very helpful.
I asked one user to do the boot options and choose command prompt, but it also wanted a password before it would show the cmd.exe window where they could run the command. So it either has to be run in the startup repair section where it normally has a cmd.exe option or Windows PE needs to be downloaded and ran from a USB.
If anyone has any info on this or wants to help let me know. I dont know why MS would do that with safe mode and the online accounts, but so be it, now I need to find a way to undo the boot edit without being able to get into windows and in a way a normal user can do it if they follow instructions. So msconfig isnt going to help on this one, but the msconfig will be one of the other guides in the help file to undo the safe mode option, that and simply opening my program as well :-)
Shane
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hmmm so with bcdedit command to start before user logs on, you will have to start it as a service.
Here is the startup sequence of the major registry keys, starting immediately after bootmgr has been read and ending with the program shortcut entries in the two Startup folders.
1. HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\BootExecute. This can include instructions to schedule the running of chkdsk but not user programs.
2. Services start next, followed by the RunServicesOnce and RunServices registry keys (if present)
3. User then logs on to the system
4. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\UserInit. This points to the program C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe and the entry ends with a comma. Other programs can be started from this key by appending them and separating them with a comma.
5. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\Shell. This should contain just one entry, explorer.exe.
6. Program entries in these 2 registry keys for ALL USERS start next:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run and \RunOnce
7. Program entries in these 2 registry keys for CURRENT USER start next:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run and \RunOnce
8. Programs in the Startup Folders of All Users and Current User are started last of all.
Important programs like antivirus and firewall start early in the sequence as Services. The icons that appear in the Notification Area (bottom right of the screen) are just their user interfaces, i.e. options and preferences.
The additional location for 32-bit software in a 64-bit computer is HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node and HKCU.
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I experienced this issue before;
reset hide/unhide control panel :)
jraju:
Hi, Shane
I think that this link provide provision of safemode while booting with normal mode to choose in between them in 1st option.
to remove safe boot by users in simple way in windows 8 in option 2. Please see the users only have to execute certain elevated commands at cmd to locate the ids of the personal computers.
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2758-safe-mode-add-windows-boot-manager-windows-8-a.html
Julian:
@Rick
So that post with what start when for windows i'm trying to give Shane an idea of when to have the bcdedit command ran so that it can kick the user out of safemode once it boots up because the number one issue with safe mode button is on windows 8 it is getting stuck with users having an email or pin lock attached. so windows reverts back to the original password with their account and some users have forgotten that password. so it makes getting out of safemode tricky because they are stuck at the login screen.
so if he can get the bcdedit command to run as a runonce service then it will kick it out of safemode
the only issue i think right now would be the runonce service regkey cant be used in safemode i think not to sure though.
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