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Windows 7 and WMI
chuckpete:
"Windows 7 and WMI" fix applies to Vista32, also. I 'tweaked' my vista and lost system updates and security center. They worked before I ran the 'tweak'.
SOLUTION: "After a lot of searching and researching I finally came across the solution. It seems ( I may be wrong, please correct me if I am) that WR adds the following path for WMI which causes it and all associated dependencies to fail: C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
I've discovered that changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Winmgmt's Image path to: %systemroot%\system32\svchost.exe -k winmgmt"
In Vista, after I changed 'netsvcs' to 'winmgmt' things started working again.
Boggin:
--- Quote from: chuckpete on September 14, 2017, 02:32:07 pm ---"Windows 7 and WMI" fix applies to Vista32, also. I 'tweaked' my vista and lost system updates and security center. They worked before I ran the 'tweak'.
SOLUTION: "After a lot of searching and researching I finally came across the solution. It seems ( I may be wrong, please correct me if I am) that WR adds the following path for WMI which causes it and all associated dependencies to fail: C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
I've discovered that changing HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\Winmgmt's Image path to: %systemroot%\system32\svchost.exe -k winmgmt"
In Vista, after I changed 'netsvcs' to 'winmgmt' things started working again.
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I've passed your findings onto Shane.
Willy2:
- Odd, very odd. I assume you ran all repairs ???
- I know how Windows Repair fixes/repairs the info for the WMI Service in repair #25. (No, no details). It seems that the info Windows Repair uses needs to be reviewed.
- WMI is used to pull up A LOT OF info from one's system. That's why it puzzles me so much that the switch "-netsvc" works on my Win 7 system (see above) and not on the systems reported above.
plox:
Hello again.
Thank you all for your contributions.
After another repair of Win7 and fearing that I had locked myself out the system I finally got it working again. Sorry about the delay in responding.
Not done any repairs apart from resetting registry permissions (#1) , reset file permissions (#2), repair safe mode, (#23) and ($22) repair file associations.
Windows Management Instrumentation is started (set to automatic) while Winmgmt's path in services.msc is definitely :
C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs
Maybe there was a bug before that stopped it from starting.
Exploring a bit further when you look at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost and netsvcs, winmgmt is present in the list of services that it controls. It could be that the repairs omit to add it to that list!!!! which could explain the problem of the WMI service not starting.
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There's a couple of other queries I'd like to raise not related to this but rather than start a new post can I please ask them here, if not please redirect?
Reset file permissions
I am using version 4.0.5, looking at All Repairs (45) and I am sure that in previous version there was an option to reset file permissions on other drives - the present one only does C: drive from what I can see. Has this option been withdrawn?
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Backup Tools - System Restore
I always click on the create button and a confirmation comes back pretty well immediately that one has been created with the date and time using an Admin loggin in Safemode.
While trying to sort out the computer I was looking for these restore points but could not find any.
I created one just now (in normal mode using a restricted account not sure if it makes a difference though it ought not to) - the response -> Restore point created at Fri 15 Sep 2017 - 18:49:36.
I click on the button to Open System Restore and when it opens there is no mention of it. Please check this out as one can easily be led in the belief that these restore points are being created but in reality not (at least on my system).
Can you also please let me know what is entered in the Description and Type in System Restore when one is created through WR?
I manually created one a couple of hours ago before installing Zone Alarm and that is the last one displayed.
Many thanks again for your help and assistance.
Boggin:
Others have also commented on the actual restore point not being created in Win 10 even though it says it has with a date and time stamp.
There's no such problem in Win 7.
Initially from Win 8 a new restore point wouldn't be created within 24hrs of the last one but Shane has told me that WR changes that frequency, although it hasn't resolved it for me and the restriction has never applied because of the time difference of days since the last one was created.
It is the same on both of my upgraded Win 10 laptops.
It's better to rely on the Registry Backup than on any restore point WR has said it has created, but unless you know about the lack of physical restore points and you try to restore from within the program then you could have problems.
I'll raise this again to see if it can be resolved.
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