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Boggin:
@ ComputerJunkie - So they are all related to the 1809 update ?

Have you used the Feedback to report that to MS ?

The update to 1809 completed late last night on my other Win 10 laptop but it won't be until later today that I will have a chance to see if anything has changed.

I did get one notification that Homegroup had been removed and I would have to use another method to transfer files but I've never used that anyway.

Boggin:
@ taneal1 - For clarification are you now saying you had problems with Windows Update before you ran the repair program ?

I was rather hoping that you did as I'd asked in trying your restore points in Safe Mode or the program's Registry Restore before uninstalling/reinstalling the repair program.

You will have lost the program's registry backup so now you would be reliant on your restore points working in Safe Mode.

Windows Update and Windows Defender are isolated in Safe Mode so it looks like the program may have not released you from that mode.

Shane had built in an additional method to release from that mode, but has proven unsuccessful for a couple, but give it a try if your restore points don't do it for you.

Open Windows Explorer - Windows C: - Program Files (x86) - Tweaking.com - Windows Repair (All in One) - Files - regfiles and double click on remove_stuck_safemode.reg

Follow the prompts then reboot to see if Windows Defender will now work.

taneal1:

--- Quote from: Boggin on January 03, 2019, 12:48:53 am ---@ taneal1 - For clarification are you now saying you had problems with Windows Update before you ran the repair program ?
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Yes. That was my original reason for running Windows Repair.


--- Quote from: Boggin on January 03, 2019, 12:48:53 am ---Windows Update and Windows Defender are isolated in Safe Mode so it looks like the program may have not released you from that mode.
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By "isolated" are you saying neither will run in Safe Mode or is there more to it than just this?


--- Quote from: Boggin on January 03, 2019, 12:48:53 am ---double click on remove_stuck_safemode.reg
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Done. Win Defender and Update fail with the same error messages as before this action.

I don't think it matters at this point but should the Services for WD & Update be left in auto, manual, or something else? Whenever I reopen Services; Update is "disabled."

What is the best way to determine whether Windows is "stuck" in Safe Mode?

Boggin:
Safe Mode only loads essential services which does not include Windows Update or Windows Defender which is why in that mode, they will not work.

It's obvious that 4.4.1 needs more work so I will pass this onto Shane.

I'm still in the process of checking out my other machine which I've recently updated to 1809 and when I've done that, I'll create a Macrium system image and test run 4.4.1.

However, I did run 4.4.0 on it when I had 1809 on it before without any adverse effects, but I need to see what 4.4.1 makes of it.

Have you tried booting into the advanced boot options to use the restore points to see if that gets you back to how things should be with Windows Defender ?

When you boot into Safe Mode normally, you will see Safe Mode on all four corners of the screen, but while the machine seems to have appeared to rebooted to normal mode after running the repair program, files haven't been deleted to get you fully back to normal mode and is why some services are still blocked from starting.

taneal1:

--- Quote from: Boggin on January 03, 2019, 07:56:54 am ---Have you tried booting into the advanced boot options to use the restore points to see if that gets you back to how things should be with Windows Defender?
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I believe I have exhausted all the boot options without success.

Before running 4.4.0 I could get into System Restore but none of the Restore Points were showing. Do they exist somewhere and I just can't access them? I doubt it. I did a quick check for the files on my Windows installation and they seem to have vanished. My focus had been on fixing Update.

At the moment, I can't get into System Restore via menus. I haven't tried accessing it via a Command Prompt because I don't think the Restore files exist anymore.

My current situation is:

Update won't start. This was true prior to running 4.4.0 the first time. Whenever I clicked Start, the start process would run for a second or two and a message that it wouldn't start appeared without a hint as to why. Services remained as previously set (auto or manual) whenever I reopened Services. Since running 4.4.0 I now get an error code: system error 1114 - a DLL initialization routine has failed. Whenever I open Services it has reset itself to "Disabled." 4.4.0/4.4.1 has changed something, whether for the better or not I can't say.

Restore System won't open. Prior to running 4.4.0/4.4.1 it would open, but no Restore Points were available. So, like Update, Restore did not work prior to running 4.4.0/4.4.1, but now I can't even open it, so something has changed with that also.

Windows Defender won't Start. Prior to running 4.4.0/4.4.1, it was working normally. At the moment I'm using SuperAntiSpyware to protect the system.

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