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I've been having an off and on problem with the Windows 10 notification icon not showing new email notifications from the built-in Mail application.  Sometime the notifications just stop occurring and then they mysteriously start showing again and I'm wondering if anyone has seen this same behavior and figured out what the cause is.  Here's what I've done or checked out so far:

I have run SFC and DISM and neither showed a problem with the OS or OS files.
I read that if there was a problem with the mail app that you should reset the app which I did.  I then double checked the mail app and verified that notifications were set to the ON position.  After everything was reset and I restarted my system I saw no change in the notifications for mail.

Someone suggested that for mail notifications to be displayed that the mail app needed to run in the background to send notifications and to remain up to date so I drilled down into Settings/Privacy/Background Apps and found that mail was listed as an app that runs in the background and the switch to turn the app on and off was properly set to the ON position.

Someone else suggested that to get notifications an app also had to be listed in Settings/System/Notifications & Actions.  I checked this list and currently Mail is not on that list however I don't know if this is normal behavior for that app not to appear or not and I did not see a method of adding mail to the list.

I want to mention something else just to make sure that whomever reading this has a complete picture of my situation.  In reality I don't use the Mail app that's available in Windows 10 to read and write email messages.  Instead I use the Outlook 2010 email app as my email client as I have a number of setting that the Mail client simply cannot be configured for.  I have the Mail client in Windows 10 setup specifically so that I get notifications of emails being available on the email server that I use as I don't have Outlook 2010 open all the time.  Having the Mail application watching for new mail being added to my inbox allows me to quickly view the subject header and the sender to determine if there is anything important that I need to read immediately.  Now I'm assuming that running these two applications on the same PC is not an issue but I wanted that fact to be known.

My gut feeling is that there is something somewhere in the system, perhaps a registry key or value that keeps getting flipped from an on position to off and then perhaps some patch from Microsoft turns that value back on for a while until some event turns it back off again.  Bottom line is that this behavior is very frustrating as it's inconsistent.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. 

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Run the registry permissions repair from my WR v3.5.0 and it will fix it.

SetAcl that I was using before wasnt setting the permissions correctly. I have replaced it with my own and it now restores the permissions correctly and it also fixes this issue. This is a registry permission problem somewhere in the hkey_classes_root and is one of those annoying, poor programming bugs of Microsoft's where if a certain key, even though it does have full access, isnt exactly the way it wants it will bug out.

So lets say a key has Administrators set as the owner instead of System. Even though system has full access to anything administrators do, it will error. Windows 8 app store had this same bug. The start menu in 10 isnt the start menu in explorer, it is actually an App now.

So now in the new version of my Windows Repair the proper defaults get put back and the start menu icons, and right click menu start working again :-)

Shane

Shane,

Thanks for the reply but I decided that it would be best if I did a Windows 10 reset and remove all files from my system.  My overall concern was with stability and a after reinstalling Windows 10, reinstalling my apps, my system is running very smooth.  At least one good thing about this is that you figured out what it was and this will hopefully help others.  I think your program is great and I've recommended it many time now to others.  Thanks again.

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Version 3.5.0 is out, has fixed the issue on 2 of the computers I was using that had the issue.

It's good to know that 3.5.0 is out and that it fixes this issue on some machines.  I'm wondering if it fixes a similar problem I was having with the search box.  If I searched for powershell in the search box it would find the app locally on my Win 10 PC.  If I right clicked on the Powershell search result it displayed about 5 options however when I right clicked on the search result the only option I had was to "Pin to Start"  This was similar to the problem I was having with apps in the start menu.  Regardless of the app I would right click the only option I had was "Pin to Start".

Unfortunately, in my case, 3.5.0 was not available to me and after getting zero answer from posts on 7 different forums I decided that the best thing to do was to reset my Windows 10 OS.  In my case I chose to have the install procedure delete everything from my HD and reinstall Windows 10.  After the reinstall of Windows 10, I reinstalled all of my apps and restored all of my data files and right now things are looking good.

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Damn okay let me see I'm gonna play with my vm of Windows 10  can you send a picture of what your context menu looks like? I'll look through my registry for the keys and see if I can find what it's defaults are because Windows 10 start menu is an app and not a part of explorer anymore like it was in 7

OK, see the screen shots in the attached Word File

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Unfortunately, I don't know when the problem surfaced.  I probably have a registry backup but I've made a lot of changes since and fear that I would mess something up by doing a restore now.  Also the repair fixed some stuff that was definitely out of whack and I fear that doing a restore would put me back in a bad state.  I've had similar posts out on a number of forum sites and so far no luck.  If I don't get an answer by then I'm probably going to Nuke the HD and reinstall Windows 10.  Hopefully someone will surprise me with an answer by then.

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Did you ever figure out exactly what it was in the registry that was causing the issue?  My Windows 10 system had some major issues and I ran Windows Repair in an attempt to fix the problems and now I have the same issues you had with the entries in the context menus being missing.  Unfortunately, in my case I've made so many changes to my system since my first Windows Repair and registry backup that I fear that I would mess a lot up if I tried to restore my registry from backup.  Also my first run of Windows Repair on my Windows 10 system fixed a lot of issues so I'm also reluctant to go backwards now even if I had just noticed the issue after the repair function.

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It looks like I have another problem on my PC and was wondering if anyone knows how to fix this?

If, while viewing the Apps listing from the Start button on Windows 10, you are supposed to be able to right click on an application Icon and it will display a menu with various options like "Pin to Start", "Pin to Task Bar", "Uninstall", etc.  I know that this is true as I've been told that this is the normal behavior that's supposed to occur from the Windows 10 Start button and I've observed that this is true on my Laptop.  My desktop PC however, when I right click on an application like CCleaner, only displays 1 option and that is "Pin to Start".  I have right clicked all of my apps and the only menu option available is "Pin to Start".  I've even removed CCleaner and reinstalled it on my PC and there is no change in the behavior of the menu when I right click on the newly reinstalled app.  As noted this behavior does not prevent me from doing things "old school" like uninstalling an app from the control panel or dragging and dropping an application icon on the task bar but it is odd that this behavior is strictly related to the start menu in Windows 10 only.

Note also that in addition to the above, right clicking on an application that was found thru the search dialog does not display the appropriate menu picks either.  For example, If I search for CMD or Powershell on my laptop and then right click on the found item the menu displays options for "Run as Administrator", "Open File Location", "Pin to Start", "Pin to task bar" and "Uninstall".  If I do the same on my desktop PC the only option displayed is "Pin to Start".

Today I ran the latest version of Windows Repair on my machine in safe mode and when it was finished, there was no change in the behavior when I right click on an application icon or a found search item so I'm kind of stuck.  My PC seems to be working fine otherwise but it concerns me that there are little things that keep cropping up that tell me that the system is not right.  I really would like it if I could fix this problem but I may be faced with having to nuke the system and install a fresh copy of Windows 10.  If there's anyone that has seen the above behavior and has fixed this problem please let me know.

Thanks.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ongoing used of Windows Repair
« on: August 31, 2015, 08:00:06 am »
- Do you mean v3.43 ?

I got the version numbers by looking at the properties of the download files and the details pages shows 3.4.0.3.  Perhaps the author shortens up the version number by dropping the third digit.

Thanks for the info on when you use WR.  I'll keep that in mind.

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General Computer Support / Re: Repair safe mode - windows 10 dont work!
« on: August 30, 2015, 06:08:32 pm »
I just wanted to comment on this post a bit.....

I was having a black screen issue when my PC would cold boot.  I would see the Windows 10 splash screen and then the screen would go black for 16 seconds or more before it would display the login screen.  I was told that Windows changes resolutions during the cold boot and that this was most likely a video driver issue and many have found success by completely removing the old driver and then reinstalling it.  I was also told by a Microsoft person that they are aware of this black screen issue for some time and they are still looking for a solution.  In my case it as not a video driver issue but something that Windows Repair did fix (mostly).  Now instead of 16 seconds or more of black screen the screen goes blank for probably less than 1/2 second.  Perhaps you should check with your graphics card manufacturer to see if they have a more recent driver that would be more compatible.

One comment that I will make on the safe mode issue is that my PC still has an issue with Safe Mode.  In the instructions for Windows Repair, it says to boot into safe mode with networking but each time I booted into Safe Mode from within Windows Repair both my network and my audio were turned off.  Apparently Windows Repair didn't need networking to fix errors but it concerns me why networking was turned off.  I was assuming that there would be options like what I had under Windows 7 that would allow you to boot into safe mode with or without networking but since my screen was going black on boot up I didn't know if the options were being displayed and I just couldn't see them or whether there something wrong with my machine.  What I was wondering is whether Windows Repair boots you into safe mode with networking and I have a problem or whether it simply boots you in safe mode and requires you to choose?


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General Computer Support / Re: Ongoing used of Windows Repair
« on: August 30, 2015, 05:47:17 pm »
Uh what version of Windows repair did you use???

The Microsoft tier 2 technician that first used Windows Repair, while my PC was still Windows 7 Pro, used version 3.3.0.1 that he downloaded on 8/6/2015.  It was 3.3.0.1 that fixed a 8007005 Windows Update error that wouldn't allow me to download Windows 10 or even use a Windows 10 Pro install DVD to upgrade my PC.  I'm not sure what it fixed, but after running Windows Repair I was able to upgrade my PC to Windows 10 Pro.

The version that I used on Windows 10 Pro, after I restored my HD from the backup taken on 8/7/2015, was version 3.4.0.3.  The reason I ran Windows Repair again was that Windows 10, after the restore, was reporting an 0x8024402f error while trying to manually invoke Windows Update.  Windows Repair did not fix this problem but after days of trying various fixes and running various scans, Windows update simply started working on it's own.  There's been speculation that Microsoft simply put something in place that blocked all updates to Windows 10 users until they could complete there most recent cumulative update that was made available on the 28th.  One side benefit of running Windows Repair again on the 8/26 was that it did fix another problem.

After I upgraded to Windows 10, each time I would perform a cold boot, the screen would display the Windows 10 splash screen and then the screen would go completely black for 16 second or more before it would display the Login screen.  I thought it was a bad video driver as my graphics card is 6 years old and AMD has not produced a driver update for it in 3 years.  I was about to go out and spend $200 on a new card but after running Windows Repair 3.4.0.3 the black screen only shows up for 1 second or less.  Again, I'm not sure what Windows Repair fixed but I'm very happy with the results. 

My primary concern now is keeping my system health and what I was wondering was whether forum members frequently run Windows Repair just to verify that no problems have crept into their systems or whether they only run it if they know that there's a problem.  If they do run Windows Repair frequently, how frequently is it used?

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General Computer Support / Re: Ongoing used of Windows Repair
« on: August 30, 2015, 10:49:16 am »
- The name itself already gives a clue. Windows REPAIR !!!
- If you suspect something is wrong then run run it. Or if you have removed malware. Malware tends to change (A LOT OF) things. No need to run it more often.
- I also would recommend installing Tweaking's Registry Backup. It makes a copy of the registry upon start up. Can save A LOT OF hassle !!!

Here's where I'm coming from.....

From the time I built my PC with Windows 7 Pro I never had a virus, never had any malware, I use a top tier AV product and I ran CCleaner frequently to get rid of my junk files.  The only thing I can say is that I have tried out numerous programs on my PC which required me to install and then remove the apps.  From my standpoint, my PC was a model of what most people should be doing to keep their PC's running at peak efficiency.  That being said, when I went to upgrade to Windows 10 I could not because of some corruption in the configuration settings of my PC and Windows Repair fixed whatever problems existed that allowed me to upgrade.  After I upgraded my PC to Windows 10 one would have assumed that since I had already run Windows Repair before the upgrade that my PC would have been really problem free.  However, after having a problem that required me to do a full hard drive restore of Windows 10 I ran Windows Repair again and again it found a ton of problems.  Since the Acronis backup image I created was made 1 day after my upgrade I was astounded over the amount of problems my PC had.  Was this a case of the older version of Windows Repair not catching it all since it was only run once instead of twice and was run in regular mode vs safe mode or was this a newer version of Windows Repair that fixed things better than the old version?  I don't know.  My concern is that if I had corruptions that were captured in a day old Acronis backup image is Windows Repair something that people run on a regular basis to keep their PC's running at optimum levels?  As like I stated earlier, I assumed that my Windows 7 OS at the time of upgrading to Windows 10 was completely error free and found out differently and would like to keep my Windows 10 OS as clean as possible.

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General Computer Support / Re: Ongoing used of Windows Repair
« on: August 29, 2015, 11:23:20 pm »
OK, thanks for the info.  Do you have any feedback on when and how often WR should be run and for what reason?

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General Computer Support / Ongoing used of Windows Repair
« on: August 29, 2015, 07:36:43 pm »
OK, I downloaded Windows Repair and it found and fixed things but it's still installed on my PC and runs at startup.  My question is why?  Granted I could have new corruptions that sneak in over time but what good does it do to have yet application running at startup?  If there's a benefit I would like to know what it is so I can evaluate whether or not I want to have it run at startup.

I guess another question I have is whether people run this program periodically to insure their PC's health or do you only run it when you sense there's a problem?

Don't get me wrong this program saved my bacon when I couldn't upgrade to Windows 10 but now that I appear to have a good working install of Windows 10 I'm wondering what the ongoing value is of having it installed.


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I hate it when this happens.....

I've been fighting this 0x8024402f error for days now and today we turned on our computer and, on it's own, the machine decided to check in with the update server on it's own and downloaded 14 updates on the first pass and then after the first restart it downloaded yet another patch on it's own.  I compared the patches that were downloaded on this machine against my laptop who also downloaded several patches today and all 15 patches I have are also on my laptop.  I don't know if, in trying certain suggestions to fix the 0x8024402f error I triggered something that required a cold boot but now things are working and I don't know why.  I would hate it if this whole time the PC was unable to ask for updates until the update server contacted the PC first to establish an update relationship but I guess that might be possible as I don't believe that there were any new updates until today.  Anyway, this is still a mystery and I'm unhappy that I don't have an answer why.

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In regard to the post by Shane.....  As a former DNS Administrator for the company I worked for before retirement, I had my doubts that this would resolve my problem.  In my case I was using 3 DNS servers (205.152.132.23, 68.94.157.1 and 205.152.37.23) that are the fastest and most reliable public DNS servers for the area in which I live.  For grins I did changes them to 8.8.8.8 and 8.4.4.4 but it didn't make any difference.  I also ran the troubleshooter for connecting to the internet and the troubleshooter for my NIC and nothing was found.  Basically I can download mail to Outlook 2010, I can visit any website that I want and I can download updates to programs I have installed on my PC.  To me this 0x824402f error is either the correct error code and there's some other issue that's denying me access to the server or the error code being reported is not the real error that's taking place and I'm chasing a phantom.  Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

In regard to the post by Boggin....  Someone else pointed to a .NET problem and suggested that I needed to go into control panel and remove v4 of .NET but apparently, Microsoft has included the framework in the Windows 10 build so it no longer shows up as something that can be removed.   

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Well, I downloaded Windows repair and went thru each step in the process up thru the repair step.  I then restarted the PC in safe mode and ran repair twice.  After that I still got the 0x8024402f error while trying to run Windows Update.  I then ran the repair step again but this time in normal logon mode and it was still a no go.  This is really frustrating because other than Windows update the PC is appears to be running flawlessly.

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Does Windows Repair work on Windows 10?

When I was Windows 7 a Microsoft 2nd Level Tech used your program to fix an error I was having that was preventing Windows 10 from installing and your tool fixed whatever was wrong with my system.  After that I was able to install Windows 10 Pro without a hitch and everything was going well until yesterday. 

Yesterday my wife was using the PC and was going to order something online and something (My wife is not a computer person) happened and the system had to reboot.  Once it rebooted it went into an infinite loop indicating that something was wrong and that it was diagnosing and fixing my PC but it never could fix it, thus the infinite loop.  After trying about everything, I finally gave up and restored an Acronis TrueImage snapshot image of Windows 10 I had taken after Windows 10 was installed but before the patches were sent down on 8/10.  All went well with the image restore and Windows 10 is up and running but I still have a problem.

When I went into Windows Update to download all of the patches and updates to the system, Windows update fails with an 0x8024402f error.  I've tried running numerous things and scans and no errors are found but I still cannot update my system.  If Windows Repair would work on Window 10 Pro and you think it would fix this problem I'd give it a shot but I wasn't sure if Windows Repair was Windows 10 compliant.

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Feedback & Suggestions / Windows Repair saved my system
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:33:17 am »
Wanted to provide you with a big thumbs up and thank you for your Windows Repair tool.  When I attempted to upgrade to Windows 10 the download would begin and while preparing to install the upgrade would error with and 8007005 error.  I downloaded the media creation tool but every time I ran it, nothing happened.  I then tried to upgrade from an Windows 10 DVD that I had created on my laptop and all it would do was display the splash screen.  I finally called Microsoft and was assigned to a tier 2 tech who after two days of failed attempts finally ran your program on my system.  After running your program I was able to upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and my machine has been running flawlessly since.  Thanks again for creating a great program....

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