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Title: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 08, 2015, 10:07:33 PM
Hi,
                  I have already written about my friend failed hard disk and how i recovered from a fresh os installation. When i removed and tried to install the windows with other computer connection, everything restored including the fresh os installation.
                              But when he connect this new installed OS hard disk to his computer, then when boots it boots and stops at intel sign. When pressed delete to enter to bios, the screen shows intel booting with ... mark. The initial intel desktop board boot screen. I could not capture . It says something that legacy boot detected and stops at that. It does not go to the windows. Why this? How to rectify this error? When installed and seen from other computer everything appears, i stress appears normal, but when he connects to his computer the same hard disk it stops at intel sign. Is there any boot managers fault or some other thing.
                    Update; I also tried to connect his hard disk with my computer, and it hangs at the same point. Intel logo. When i press delete, it does not go to bios, instead to the intel desktop logo as in command prompt, saying starting.... , but nothing more than that
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 09, 2015, 12:58:29 AM
Did you activate the OS installation on another computer, as that could have tied the licence to that hardware.

Regarding the Legacy boot, you may have the option to change that to UEFI in the BIOS or you may have to download and save the BIOS onto another computer to copy across and install, but I think Shane will have more experience in this to guide you - it isn't something I've ever needed to do.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 09, 2015, 01:09:06 AM
Hi, Boggin,
                    I will wait for Shane. But as per his advice only, i tried to install the OS from other computer by making boot priority by DVD drive. The OS was successfully installed there and i could view the other drives with contents showing in the Installation stage.
                         Having removed the same and tried to boot from my friend's computer, it stopped at intel logo. I tried with my computer, by connecting,(disconnecting my hdd), the computer stops at boot post, ie intel logo. It does not go to the BIOs also. It stops at intel logo when i press the delete key also. When it reads my hdd, normally it should read also his hdd. Now i hope you understand the strangeness. There was a thread in this regard. The link will be posted when i edit or post next.
Update: the link is here
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,2751.0.html
                               
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 09, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
I didnt mean for you to install the OS on another system, that doesnt really work. but it did confirm that the problem isnt the hard drive and that the hard drive is fine.

Are you able to get into the bios at all on the troubled system?

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 09, 2015, 06:03:37 PM
Hi,
             When i tried that Os Installed hard disk with my computer bios, i could not get in to bios. It stops at Intel sign. But when i reconnect, my hard disk, there is no problem in booting. Is it not strange? The same ram, the same mother board of mine with his hard disk would stop at intel sign, whereas it allows past boot post with my hard disc.
                       I could not go to bios , as i have already pointed out, if i press del , it shows the intel boot screen, showing that it is starting..... thats all.
                  I have just disconnected my hard disc and used the same power and data cable for connection
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 10, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
OK so when the hard drive is hooked up the motherboard pretty much hangs up while trying to detect it. Normally this would point to be a bad drive. BUT you said you where able to put the drive into another system with no problems?

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 10, 2015, 10:19:13 PM
Hi, yes. I do not know why this behaves.
                        If i use my hdd drive with the same ram and bios, it works. But when I connect that already installed OS hdd, it does not go past POST .
                              I will send the details regarding my bios menu as it shows and selected in my next post.  would it be because of BIOs. Should one has to remove the cmos to default bios settings and then try that. Why it is not moving past BIOS. I checked the same Hdd with the first computer where the OS was installed and also in my computer, after it is installed correctly. I could also see the contents of other drives when c: was formatted and reinstalled.
                                Yesterday, i again went to the Bios made in my computer and changed the dvd as first priority and then inserted the dvd to try install again. But it would not go past POST. When i connect the installed hdd, i got the error " Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key" It repeats itself after some wait.  What it denotes? I will post my bios details.
                     update:               Should i position the hdd in the slots and not outside the computer while checking the hdd drive, as the bios shows the slotwise information in slots in boot configuration menu in bios. Should i not connect the same outside the computer by connecting the same with the other computers power and data card.
                                      Shoud SATA and PaTa have to be checked? is it not auto detect. I tried to boot with the hdd as priority. But it hangs at POST, not moving an inch further, set up starting..... screen
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 11, 2015, 11:54:06 AM
Make sure you hook the drive up like it would normally be in the computer, try not to use any externals if you can just so we can try to trace down why the bios is locking up when looking for the drive.

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 11, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
Hi, Shane,
                   Strange. I asked the same question to Leo and surprised to receive a reply to the effect, it may not success in booting when OS is installed  thro other computer. His exact words  "The OS install needs to happen on the computer in which the drive is to remain installed".
                             Does that mean Ram has some memory remained static, so it blocks. Out of 1024 mb ram, 1016 is the read memory, when silent boot is disabled. So, if i remove the ram and reseat it and then also remove cmos battery and try would it work?
Shane, one more thing, i have a clip attached to cmos coin battery?. Is there any easy idea how to eject the same, so that bios could be reset. There is a slight grip on the battery to hold. Please.
                            Leo words mean that OS could not be installed to the hard drive, in another computer. Is that correct.
                                  I will try your suggestion also to place the hard drive in the slot and try
Update: Could the difference in  mother board drivers for the computer that installed OS  and the computer of my friend be the reason for not allowing this.
                                  Normally, when we attempt to install windows thro our computer, the mother boards are  one and same.
                                 
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 12, 2015, 12:24:46 AM
I've already told you the reason why installing an OS onto a HDD on a different computer to the target one will not work when you insert the HDD into the target computer and that is because when you activated it, it registers the motherboard and there will be different drivers.

I think you will need to reformat the disk, reinstall the OS but don't use the product key until you've put the HDD back into the target computer.

This will give you 30 days in which you have activate it, but if the key doesn't now work, then you will need to contact MS for activation.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 12, 2015, 12:30:17 AM
Hi, Excellent wealth of information.
                  But trying to format with the dvd , also does not work, as it is failing at POST stage itself. Is that anything to do with hard disk failure.

                     Or should i change the BIOs settings other than boot priority. Because it does not go past POST.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 12, 2015, 12:38:36 AM
If you are able to boot up with the install disk, you may be able to do the Upgrade install - not sure if the Custom install would work as you're supposed to do that within Windows, but you could give both a try which may negate the need to try and reformat.

When you get to the MS splash screen select Install and follow the prompts from there.

I'm going to have to go now because I have a busy morning but either install is going to take a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 12, 2015, 12:43:19 AM
Hi,
                  No. Only I want to test from dvd and not from running windows to test that hard disk.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 12, 2015, 12:51:57 AM
While newness doesn't guarantee serviceability, I think the new HDD will be fine and it's because of the change of hardware that is causing it not to boot.

If you can connect it to your computer as an additional drive and it recognizes it - check its drive letter either in Windows Explorer or Disk Management then open an admin command prompt and enter chkdsk x: /r where x is the drive letter, that should do the disk check on it.

Really have to go now.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 12, 2015, 11:44:52 AM
The OS needs to be installed on the same system. But that isnt the problem right now, it isnt even getting to that part. When it is at the intel sign is when the bios is checking the hardware, it hasnt even started trying to boot windows. So the windows install and drivers have no effect at this point.

Normally when the bios is locking up like that it is because of a bad setting, bad hardware or perhaps a bad cable. I had a new ssd drive I put into a older system and the bios would freeze up trying to detect it, so I found their was a firmware update for the ssd that fixed that problem and after putting the firmware on the drive the system was fine.

That is simply an example how it can be a number of different things. Normally I would say it is the hard drive, but since the drive can be put in another system and it is detected fine tells me the drive is ok.

So that means we need to check what else the bios is looking at and how the drive is plugged in.

Here is what I would do, take the drive out, turn on the system and go into the bios. There is normally a setting to hide the boot up logo and instead show what the bios is doing, that way you can see at what part it is stopping at when it freezes up. :wink:

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 12, 2015, 05:02:33 PM
As you say it's when it gets to the Intel sign that is when the BIOS starts checking the hardware - because this install was registered on different hardware, won't that be why it's hitting a brick wall ?
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 12, 2015, 05:44:33 PM
Hi, Shane , I have done that. I have disabled silent booting and i could see the Intel logo , first checking the ram to 1016 mb and then it asks for F2 to resume setup, when i press F2, it goes to the same screen, set up starting...
This is when it freezes. As it detects ram, there is no problem there.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Boggin on February 13, 2015, 01:12:39 AM
I think you'd probably get the same results if you put your own HDD into any other computer.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 13, 2015, 01:41:08 AM
Hi, I tried and succeeded in having saved the bootable usb. But i could not make that as boot priority to check , as there were no option to show in boot priority. But when i checked the hard drive , i could see the pendrive is listed next to hard drive. But , if you select this pendrive and then boot, your computer hangs in the middle with error F/boot/bcd error. I again made the hard drive as priority and i could boot properly.
                                     i will try to reseat the cmos and ram and then try to boot from dvd , by connecting that hard drive.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 13, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
Hi, Shane ,
                       Should i disconnect the present hard drive and just try boot with ram and mother board connections to see the bios. I am learning from you on booting.
                            I tried usb win tool, it stops at 99%, and even after formatting and repartitioning it , it stops at 99%, with some error.
                               I think that bootexec has to be inserted in to the pen drive. It is not found in the usb tool.
                                     I tried some other tool like plp boot manager, and trying with admin , the window boot starts as first priority, but since the present hard drive is working at the try, i could not do so at boot. My bios has support of usb boot, but I think that is for keyboard and mouse and not any other thing.
                                       If i click boot , and then sub menu Hard drive, the hard drive and pen drive are shown in that menu, but not in the boot order.
                                           Shane, could i change the hard drive boot to pendrive, by connecting the suspected failed hard drive and then boot? For learning purpose, as well as, to trouble shoot , i seek your advice.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 14, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Hi, Shane Please also see this
AHCI is supported by all versions of Windows Vista and newer, Linux and Mac OS. However, Windows does not configure itself to load the AHCI driver upon boot if the SATA-drive controller was not in AHCI mode at the time of installation. So the PC will not boot up if the SATA controller is later switched to AHCI mode. The drive controller should be changed to AHCI or RAID before installing the operating system.   extract, my comment                   Sata is a big tape like wire connecting with HDD, unlike ide , which is like ribbon like one. My system has ribbon like ide cable.
                                     If suppose, the OS was installed in the other computer using different modes, then the computer would not boot.
                                       If suppose, the other computer has sata when OS installed, and while transfering to my computer, since i have the ide, would this be responsible?
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 16, 2015, 03:41:09 PM
It is hard to tell you what the next thing to do is given how much you have done already and without me being able to see the machine.

We need to take the hard drive out of the mix so that we can confirm if it is the problem or not.

Do you have another, good drive that you can put into the system and see if it will boot past the intel sign? Reason why is if the port that the hard drive is plugged into is bad it would explain what is happening, but a drive can cause this as well. So if we try with a different drive, in the same port that can confirm if the problem is that or not. :wink:

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 16, 2015, 08:24:29 PM
Hi, Shane,
                       If i connect the system, to another hard drive , it is booting without any problem.
                             I found a seagate tool, a diagonostic cd tool which self boots when power on , and stops at intel logo. If i remove the hard drive, then it goes past POST, and show the diagnostic tool in the monitor.So, there is some problem in Hard drive. If i connect and touch the top of HDD, i could feel something drirring , suggesting that power is passing to the hdd, but it could not do anything. I think it is spinning, that indicates some life in it.
                                   Placing the dead hard disk to a freezer is one of the idea , to retrieve the data. But i do not thing it as a solution. Most people suggest in forums. They say somehow it shrinks the inner of HDD and may give some inner medicine to boot. I do not know.
                                          I tried with xp cd in the hope that mobo drivers of the computer may be different and since mother board drivers are also installed at the installation stage, my friends mobo may be different from the one from which OS got installed.
                                             My next try is to connect this hdd to usb-ide adopter and then check whether any recognition of hdd in running windows.
                                                   The extreme try to get another ide cable and power cable to connect the same to the available port in  mobo and the failed, hdd.
                                                         My point is , how then the whole OS was installed using the other machine. Do the modern boards have any special bios. I will give the bios detail, default, (i, removed the cmos and replaced it , there by restoring the optimal defaults of bios , including opting F9 in bios menu to do that.
                                           Shane, by the by, what is flashing of bios. I never did that so far. Is it dangerous.
                                              So many hard disks , according to experts  really have life, but they are thrown as dead drives because of want of some mechanism tb]. [/b]If one opens the hard disk, nothing but some spinning wheels and circuit would be there. Tho see [ere are programs to boot from cd to test, but if it does not pass thro hdd, nothing could be done. I suppose,
                                              Does flashing means connecting bios file to the computer by powering on
                                                   
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 17, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Well if you can connect a different hard drive and it gets past the intel logo fine, but freezes up on the current hard drive then that tells me it should be the hard drive itself that is causing the problem. The confusing part is the fact that you could plug the drive into another system and you could boot it up.

What I would do is hook the drive into another system as a secondary drive, then use the seagate tools (If it is a seagate drive) and have it run the tests on it and check the smart status of the drive and let me know the results.

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 18, 2015, 05:49:35 AM
Hi, It was when i installed the OS. I think there is definitely problem in hard drive. Regarind ide connection of jumpers, i only know little. Sata no problem, but ide you have to select jumpers for master and slave and this involves lot.
                       When it was just hooked up with another drive, i could have asked the person just to format it instead of installing anything.
                                   I tried just plugging 2 cables of power and data to the mother board , but it is not recognised. On seeing the notes, the jumpers part.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 18, 2015, 08:59:56 AM
I find that the easiest way of setting the jumpers on PATA IDE HDDs is to use an 80 wire ribbon cable and set the jumpers on both drives to cable select (CSEL). This way the only variable is the position on the cable where the drive is connected. Blue connects to the primary IDE channel on the motherboard, Black for the master, grey for the slave.

Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 18, 2015, 09:56:50 PM
My god, that didnt even cross my mind. :tongue:

I am so use to sata drives now I didnt even pay attention it was a IDE 25 pin connection drive, and yes if the jumpers are not set properly it can cause the bios to lock up.

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 19, 2015, 04:46:50 PM
My god, that didnt even cross my mind. :tongue:

I am so use to sata drives now I didnt even pay attention it was a IDE 25 pin connection drive, and yes if the jumpers are not set properly it can cause the bios to lock up.

Shane

Some of us still live in a "Legacy World"  :shy:

I actually picked up a few PATA HDDs recently, new but old stock, for a few quid each....Seagates  and WDs, 8MB caches so even a slight performance boost too  :wink:
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 19, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
Hi, Shane, Boggins and Samson
                                 
                                 The curious part of the puzzle is not over. When i just check with other computer, the hard disk is recognised. It boots with the already installed windows installation and i could access all the drives and files. but , hooked at my friends computer, it still hangs on intel sign.  So the problem is not bad cable, memory but i think that bios may be the thing to took out.  It is seagate, an it recognises in other computer. Now for sure, the hard disk is alive and had no problem.
                                          I checked the other computer bios. It is intel , but have different menus. But other hard drives are detected with the same cable and memory and bios, except this one. What would be the problem? Is it not strange. Could be bios be updated with downloads or one should flash it?
                                   
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 19, 2015, 11:52:48 PM
pl find enclosed bios settings.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 19, 2015, 11:58:52 PM
hi, Please see the bios setting
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 20, 2015, 03:50:59 AM
Hi Jraju,

I am confused  :confused:

Can you clarify, are all those screen shots from your friend's PC? (I thought that you could n't get into the BIOS).

Is the WD SATA HDD, the original "failed" drive?

Have you installed the OS (on another PC) onto a Seagate PATA HDD, that is recognised in another machine, but not in his/ hers?

Is the PATA IDE controller enabled in the bios of the machine in the screenshots?
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Shane on February 20, 2015, 11:55:22 PM
In the last image I only see sata drives listed, Pata would be the IDE drive, and it doesnt show anything.

Shane
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 22, 2015, 01:09:41 AM
Hi, Samson,
                        I know that it is something in bios setup that I get the problem.
                         I tried to short the cmos battery and removing the battery etc, but still it stops at intel sign.
                              I think that the above would lead to the factory setting of bios. Still the problem persists.
                                       My friend has given the hard disk to me and i am testing that in my computer.
                                             I also heard that the update failure of bios would be the reason for this sort of behaviour.
                                                   While i reset the cmos , i should get the factory bios set up. So, problem should not be there.
                                                      I tried legacy option in the boot menu, but nothing new happening.
                                                            To my puzzle, in legacy setting, (another one enhanced), the present hard drive failed. When i correct to enhanced mode the wd hard drive boot normally.
                                                        I clearly suspect that it is in bios settings that it gives the problem.
                                                              I also read that update version of bios , it goes to sleep mode, if boot up and there is some problem in that latest update. But in factory settings also the problem is not solved.
                                                               If i thought of jumper replacing and flashing thro bios, there is risk of creating bootable usb to flash the files. there is no floppy disk usage now. No floppy disc availabe in market also.
                                                                 When i tried the update, with recommended settings , the bios update by eb.exe, gave me successful installation message.
                                                                     I think that there is a setting in bios that must be changed to something to get the hard drive life.
                                                                      Intel stopped support for this product and it is waste of time to get support from intel. They never listen to complaints.
                                                                        Above all, my initial system was xp and the drivers for xp, sometime gives problem if i upgrade to win 7.
                                                                          I have mother board cd with me from intel. But i do not find it goes to the intel download screen. I get internal error . Shane, is the bios file not present in mother board cds.
                                                                             Why i am not getting notification of repllies in my email for the past two days?
                                                   
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 22, 2015, 01:14:28 AM
Hi, Samson,
                     The problematic hard disk is seagate hard disk 250 gb. I am testing that in my computer to find the problem. what is legacy settings. I have some 5options in the settings in the latest bios. Which should i choose. I will write the options in the next post.
                                 Why  i am not getting email alerts of replies, which i was receiving .

Update: When i select legacy mode in the drive configuration
                            I get 4 options, of which i do not know which to select,
                            a   sata p0/p2,p1/p3,
                             b    sata p1/p3,pata
                              c      sata p0/p2,pata
                                 d   pata only
                               how to check whether bios is in factory settings, after removing cmos, and short circuit the cmos ends. When i did i get , cmos date not set message, while booting.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 22, 2015, 04:46:34 AM
Hi jraju,

From your screenshot above it looks like you choose option "c", sata p0/p2, pata.

Can you confirm that the Seagate HDD is PATA and you have set the jumpers correctly and put it at the end of the 80 wire ribbon cable?

Do you have "Notify me of replies" checked or unchecked here on this forum?
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 24, 2015, 03:54:57 AM
Hi,
           Notify me of replies is the default settings. Still the problem persists. Why, Shane :thinking:
                         Hi, Samson,  I now have it in enchanced mode, which enable both sata and pata.
                              I tried to install the windows, by going to the drive and clean install after formatting. The window loaded, but after accepting the terms, i get the error a required driver from cd dvd is missing. error. It is a load driver error.
                        When i have chosen the repair install, i could get the command prompt, but when i type diskpart and then check list. It shows there is no fixed disk to show error. I tried xp installation but it hangs at intel logo.
    update: the seagate is sata hdd.
                             I surfed the net and seagate has given a firmware update, for a problem in this model, that the data could be intact, but hard drive would not be accessed when poweron, or when the disk is passing certain limits, . I have also addressed them. They have published a fix, but i do not know, how firmware update could be done, if the drive is not recognised, ie supposedly dead drive
Link:Mine is 7200.12 model, and this is also affected, even though not mentioned in the article
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds002013
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 24, 2015, 04:27:27 AM
Hi jraju,

I really am confused now  :confused:

I thought that the Seagate was a PATA HDD? (Why all the talk about jumper settings, master/ slave in your previous posts?).

Perhaps the installation media is damaged/ corrupt.

Sounds like the drive is "iffy" at best. Even if you get it running would you really be confident in its longevity?

If it were me, I'd look at getting a known good HDD, and  known good installation media in order to take this further  :wink:

Then try a clean install on the original machine that you are trying to sort out, I can't see that all this switching/ swapping drives around to and fro between different machines is ever going to work out.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 27, 2015, 08:51:12 PM
Hi, Samson,
                       Yes you are correct. I did not know about the intricacies of bios. My mother board has 4 sata ports, and 2 pata ports. I come to know that Pata only has the jumpers, and Sata is advanced and no need to set jumpers. Thanks for your guide.
                       I used seagate dos tool to basic test, which passed and subsequently cleaned zero, c: partition and then full  . It took almost 3 hours to clean all the lba and i could now see the hard disk in bios and could boot with installation dvd.
                             No errors up to the point of formatting and partitioning of the hard drive. It started windows installation , it copied the files to the system. But when expanding stage, ie , second stage , it hanged at 0% and i waited for 25 minutes, whether it will progress further. It seems to be in a loop, trying to expand, but could not. The yellow light indicator of hard disk seems to be without any blinking , to show that there was nil activity. Normally, if it works, it blinks, i think. I stopped but it hanged in the same loop. I had to switch off the system to stop the loop process. Any idea?
                                   secondly, if i want to connect as a storage disk, could i just plug in power and data cable to the available sata port in mother board. I tried, but i could not see the drive in bios or in the drive configuration menu in the bios settings. The computer boots with the other hard drives OS, but no sign of the hard disk i inserted newly. Pl any link would be appreciated
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on February 28, 2015, 01:08:17 AM
Hi, one and all
                         The problem was solved. I got back the supposed hard drive. If you do not surf the net for minute details, you will not be able to recover. I installed windows also in it for my friend. I partitioned and now everything is fine.
                         The crux of the matter is i have to copy sata drivers, which has been destroyed, when my friends hard disk hanged at intel logo. The mother board is having all the bios update. But minus sata drivers, which is essential for recognising the hard disk, a sata seagate hard disk. This you could browse, if you know the exact location from the dvd, when load drivers error occurs, or as copied to the pendrive during instllation. It will be shown in the pen drive and it will list all the drivers. We need sata drivers and we should select those sata named drivers, about 2 in the list. Once you select, it automatically download the same and the error is gone. Now the hard disk is recognised if it is not really dead.
                              Secondly, by using simple method of usb installation, you could avoid scratches dvd or drive, the installation will be very smooth.
                               Pata or Sata, i do know only little. The technicians simply dispose it off as dead drive. But i had other idea. I could see some spinning. I tried seatool to erase and then did the above to restore my friends hard disk. SEagate dos tool made it possible. The drivers if not corrupted would not pose problem. Usb installation is quicker and without any flaw. dvd drive hanged at 0% in expanding file stage. Thanks for all the help for every one.
the file name is f6fly.zip or something, it is very crucial if you have sata hard disk
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on February 28, 2015, 03:12:46 AM
Hi Jraju,

Good news to hear that you sorted it  :smiley:

I'd image the working disk, so as to save time if/ when it fails again  :wink:
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 01, 2015, 12:50:08 AM
Hi, Samson,
                          How to do it. Would you please share the trick.
                             Normally, every hard disk producer would have some tools like seagate.
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 01, 2015, 04:21:45 AM
Yup Seagate has this.....
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/acronis_true_image_seagate_edition_software_%28discwizard%29.html
I've never used it, so cannot comment.

Personally I use this one....
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/macrium_reflect_free_edition.html
Easy to use, good support and free.

Addendum

If you go with Macrium, then be sure to create a rescue CD/USB (Win PE) and test it.
After you have created an image, then verify it.
Also, if you have no external HDD, then an image of a clean install of XP with all updates, drivers etc will fit nicely on a single DVD  :wink:.
In the event of needing to use your saved image, then you can be back up and running in 10 to 15 minutes  :smiley: A whole bunch quicker than reinstalling, doing all those updates etc.

Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 01, 2015, 10:04:34 PM
Hi,
samson
                      Thanks for tips. But I want  how to use it. Just select c: to image, would it be enough?
                            what do you mean by rescue cd..dvd for using this program. Could i take the other drives as well. I have not tried this imaging and so I ask you.
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 02, 2015, 03:59:02 AM
If "C" is your only drive/ partition, then yes that is fine.
You need the rescue media in order to boot the machine in the event of wanting to reinstall an image. In Macrium Reflect, this is listed under "Other Tasks" tab.

 A few guides....
http://kb.macrium.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50074.aspx

http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/How_to/Rescue/Create_a_Standard_Windows_PE_Rescue_Environment.htm
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 05, 2015, 01:14:11 AM
is cloning different from what you are saying.
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 05, 2015, 03:43:01 AM
Pretty much the same really, except....Cloning will copy to another HDD so that disk will be bootable and available as an immediate replacement. Disk imaging will save an image that can be used to create a bootable HDD for use later.
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 05, 2015, 03:50:59 AM
Thanks samson,
                             Will you say how to clone c:, which contains the operating system.
                                 One more question: If suppose, one has the same operating system, say, win 7, could he be able to access the other hdd, if he is connecting with power and data cable in the same system as a additional hard disk.
                                If suppose, if he could access that drive, will the format could be done easily, by using format menu like you format d: e: f: etc.
                                   would another power and data cable and mother board slot are enough.
                                       I am learning new things from this forum and especially on hardware and sounds, i am learning a lot from you . Thanks
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 05, 2015, 03:58:57 AM
Here you go....

http://kb.macrium.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50081.aspx
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 05, 2015, 04:01:01 AM
regarding cloning ok.
                               But what about my subsidiary queries
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 05, 2015, 04:04:12 AM

                               But what about my subsidiary queries

Can you put it another way? I am not really too sure what it is that you are asking  :wink:
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 05, 2015, 04:07:05 AM
One more question: If suppose, one has the same operating system, say, win 7, could he be able to access the other hdd, if he is connecting with power and data cable in the same system as a additional hard disk.
                                If suppose, if he could access that drive, will the format could be done easily, by using format menu like you format d: e: f: etc.
                                   would another power and data cable and mother board slot are enough.
                                       
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 05, 2015, 04:36:42 AM
Yes, should be able to see the additional HDD and then use the normal tools to format it.
Title: Re: Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Rick on March 05, 2015, 05:42:02 AM
The OS needs to be installed on the same system. But that isnt the problem right now, it isnt even getting to that part. When it is at the intel sign is when the bios is checking the hardware, it hasnt even started trying to boot windows. So the windows install and drivers have no effect at this point.

Normally when the bios is locking up like that it is because of a bad setting, bad hardware or perhaps a bad cable. I had a new ssd drive I put into a older system and the bios would freeze up trying to detect it, so I found their was a firmware update for the ssd that fixed that problem and after putting the firmware on the drive the system was fine.

That is simply an example how it can be a number of different things. Normally I would say it is the hard drive, but since the drive can be put in another system and it is detected fine tells me the drive is ok.

So that means we need to check what else the bios is looking at and how the drive is plugged in.

Here is what I would do, take the drive out, turn on the system and go into the bios. There is normally a setting to hide the boot up logo and instead show what the bios is doing, that way you can see at what part it is stopping at when it freezes up. :wink:

Shane

Shane; my suggestion?

have him do a repair install with a startuprepair disk.
Version sensitive

Windows 7 will work for all versions vista as I remember
But, if he is using a custom computer, it may need toi install the Intel Drivers too

Startup repair first, in all cases here!
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Samson on March 05, 2015, 05:49:41 AM
As far as I am aware, the OP's original problem has been solved, and the thread title has been amended to "Solved".

@Jraju.... Perhaps you should start a new thread regarding imaging/ cloning if you have any problems.
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: jraju on March 05, 2015, 09:00:43 PM
Hi, Thank you Samson.
                             Cloning is the main message in your solution. Cloning of c: drive with initial programs, is the best choice, because one need not install the OS again with initial programs. And i think the registry entries are also copied if you clone. Nice solution. Eventhough, the problem is over, i thought that this is related litem in booting, so, continued with this thread instead of new one.
                                            Anyway, as you said, i will raise a new thread on it shortly. Thanks Shane, boggins, samson and lot others who have given the ideas on how to solve the problem. Shane has given the idea that OS is independent of mother board drivers.  A sound thought and solution to my problem that i could retrieve. Thanks all
Title: Re: (solved)Why booting on stops at intel sign?
Post by: Rick on March 06, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Pretty much the same really, except....Cloning will copy to another HDD so that disk will be bootable and available as an immediate replacement. Disk imaging will save an image that can be used to create a bootable HDD for use later.

Try XXclone