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Main Forum => General Computer Support => Topic started by: dondon on June 19, 2015, 05:08:12 am
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I don know what to say about this,coumputer boots up slowly,in about a min.Don't know the reason why it act like that .I disabled most off the programs that start at startup through msconfig utility and reduced Boot.ini timeout to 3 sec but it boots up in a minute or so.During that period the window is blank.I have no antivirus so i believe this is something about services or an adware my programs might havev missed.The reason i have no AV,if you might ask,its because it hinders speed,which i need as my device isnt a professional gamming ,more of a notebook ,so i have to do what i can do to compensate.
I applied any tweak i know for this and use many softwares but the time is still set,wont take less than a minute.
Programs Used: CCleaner,Uniblue Powesuite,Advanced System Care,Adwcleaner,Rogue Killer,Junkware Removal Tool,Hitman Pro,Malware Anti-Malware,IExplore,Tweaking.com
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OS and basic specs would help....
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OS and basic specs would help....
Agreed.
if you can provide us with what version of windows x86 or x64 that would help plus we would need to know how much ram you have hard disk space would be another good thing to know and what processor you have and how many ghz does it run.
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It sounds like dondon is using a Win 8/8.1 computer.
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No i have a windows XP 32-bit.Other details are specified in the picture below.
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My Win 7 boots up in 60 - 65 secs and I'm quite pleased with that - how long did it take normally for your XP to boot up ?
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I have an old machine with XP on it, 1.2GHz Celeron and 512MB RAM (100MHz), 40GB IDE HDD, boots to a working desktop in 30 seconds, so it can be done. I only have my AV running at start up. Uneeded services and hardware disabled.
Post a list of your start up items.
Also take a look at Shane's two programs. both are of benefit to machines with low resources.
http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem
http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/simple_system_tweaker.html
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Tried the tools you provided.No results.
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http://www.techrepublic.com/article/step-by-step-use-bootvis-to-improve-xp-boot-performance/5034622/
Please use the bootvis according to the instruction in the above link.
Download the bootvis from this link first:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/bootvis.html
If you find any improvement , please tell
After this, use shanes simple tweak program to improve further the boot.
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Tried the tools you provided.No results.
Still waiting for a list of what programs you have running at start up......
I disabled most off the programs that start at startup through msconfig utility
Any auto updaters? Google, Adobe, MS etc....
Is quick/ fast boot enabled in your BIOS?
Is your HDD set as the first boot device?
Disabling unused hardware, such as unused ports can help too.
The aggregation of marginal gains and all that.
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Can you do a
chkdsk c: and post the results?
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Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about
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Sorry for x2 reply but cant post 2 images in the same post apparently
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Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about
Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
Also yahoo messenger, do you really need that at start up?
Greenshot.exe ( a screen shotter, yes?) does n't need to run at start up.
You could always use MS Zero config utility instead of the intel software for your wifi, your choice.
WLTRAY.exe, again your choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/WLTRAY.exe-18787.html
So ther's a few things that you could trim out (personally I would/ do) up to you. YMMV.
If you do try them one at a time, see how it goes :wink:
Create a restore point/ reg backup in case.
But on the list that you've got, your 60 seconds is about right.
PS Your lack of AV is a concern, with those specs you can run AV no problem.
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Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about
Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
Also yahoo messenger, do you really need that at start up?
Greenshot.exe ( a screen shotter, yes?) does n't need to run at start up.
You could always use MS Zero config utility instead of the intel software for your wifi, your choice.
WLTRAY.exe, again your choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/WLTRAY.exe-18787.html
So ther's a few things that you could trim out (personally I would/ do) up to you. YMMV.
If you do try them one at a time, see how it goes :wink:
Create a restore point/ reg backup in case.
But on the list that you've got, your 60 seconds is about right.
PS Your lack of AV is a concern, with those specs you can run AV no problem.
Ok,i googled up the existing services and searched their specific location in my device
Apoint => service will toggle touchpad when mouse present or not,helpful in case mouse fails and when you are typing and your hand goes over touchpad [Keep]
iFrmewrk =>thats intel WiFi tray icon,not very usefull but i still want to know wheter my Internet dropped or not[Keep/Discard]
Zcfgsvc =>thats Intel Wireless Auto-connect/recconnect if connection dropped,[Keep]
Stsystra => Sigmatel Sound drivevr,[Keep]
GreenShot =>Fast Save print screen directly on filles,Full screen or window,[Keep]
Other new info i discovered using provided software:
-C:\ drive 63% fragmented,doing a defrag right now
-Boot vis found that services and applications take 37 s to load,report provided in attachments
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So you have decided what to keep (bear in mind that they all steal seconds off your boot time).
But what about the other things?
Is quick/ fast boot enabled in your BIOS?
Is your HDD set as the first boot device?
Disabling unused hardware, such as unused ports can help too.
The aggregation of marginal gains and all that.
And.
Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/
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Sorry my first report through Bootvis wasn't uploaded as it may have excedeed max size allowed,having over 100mb,therefore ill post a printscreen of it
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As a comparison here is mine for a 1.2GHz Celeron with 512MB RAM (100MHz), 40GB IDE HDD, a real dinosaur of a machine, but you can see how quickly it boots with uneeded services and hardware disabled, faster than I thought, less than 24 seconds :wink:
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I disabled all start up items,startup speed improvment,0.07s,report attached to the post
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Run chkdsk c: /r on the system to check for bad sectors on the HDD.
I am unsure why there is no "Prefetching" listed on your report.
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Tried that chkdsk in my already malufunctional chkdsk,Bad idea.BSOD on all attempts to boot,Start Windows Normally,Last Know Good Configuration,All Safe modes.I was lucky as i had Hirens Boot CD on usb and Junkware Removal Tool,restored all the registry to 26.05.2015.Regedit wont help you while in minixp,JRT reg backup works on dos and restores registry to the correct path,not xp mini,you need both of them.This restore optimize my pc speed a bit and now is down to 40.Pretty good if i had any AV running but i dont.10 s to under ?
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I have just read your other thread, did n't know that you had previous problems with chkdsk before. Good that you had a backup :wink: (JRT uses Shane's reg backup).
I am not sure what this says about the health of your HDD, especially as chkdsk c: showed "Errors found".
I am still curious as to why you have no "Prefetching" listed in your Bootvis report, have you disabled prefetching, or has it been disabled by another program that you mentioned in your first post?
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Now works pretty fine since that DOS retore.Registry was at fault and my softwares couldn't detect it.Guess Backing up yourself in 2 forms(*.reg and *.file) once you fully installed OS and Drivers then just keep it forever instead of hundrets of softwares claiming to repair registry.Well i still wanna google up all services running on my OS,to give a little more boost.Thx for all help.
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Good to hear that you are sorted.
After a clean install, updates and programs loaded, I take a drive image. Then if ever disaster strikes I've got a known good start point to go back to. It saves time and I can be back up and running in minutes rather than hours. I also make regular disk images and registry backups, and keep the installers for all the programs that I use.
Prgrams that claim to fix/ repair/ clean your registry are generally thought of as snake oil, and cause more problems than actually helping.
Shane's registry back up is here...
http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/registry_backup.html
Black Viper's guide for services is a valuable resource.
http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-xp-x86-32-bit-service-pack-3-service-configurations/
I guess that you can mark the thread as "Solved" in the title.
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I think you should disable some startup program and your computer will start faster, smoothly.
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I think you should disable some startup program and your computer will start faster, smoothly.
I think we've covered that :rolleyes:
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Subject covered.But 0.07 s boost after disabling all software its kinda disappointing,not even a single 1 s.My laptop is used mainly for Photo/Video/Audio editing ,Office Apps and Gaming mainly.Nothing else.Harddrive now, over 50% empty ,kept only the basic programs i need frequently,my work,some templates,others uninstall and keep setup,Registry and Disk defragmented.Its something about ser{vice and ill find out.
[Solution]:Always have a registry backup of you OS(Operating System) and its Hardware(basic Drivers) done with Junkware Removal Tool to restore using Hirens Boot CD MiniXp too boot up and simply run C:\RegBackup\ComputerDescription\Date\Dos_restore.cmd
Junkware Removal Tool
http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/dl/b19c7bdab0a44bb277ae5fc6555d12fe/5588165a/windows/security/security-utilities/j/junkware-removal-tool/JRT.exe (http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/dl/b19c7bdab0a44bb277ae5fc6555d12fe/5588165a/windows/security/security-utilities/j/junkware-removal-tool/JRT.exe)
Hirens Boot CD
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip (http://www.hirensbootcd.org/files/Hirens.BootCD.15.2.zip)
PS,how to mark topic as solved,quite confusing as i cant change the topic title
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You should be able to add "Solved" to the title.
As pointed out earlier JRT uses Shane's Registry Backup.
As a final point, I stll think you should check if prefetching is enabled.
Check the following....
Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters
Name: EnablePrefetcher
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 3
If any different to above, I suggest starting a new thread.
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Found out how,Rename first post subject and voila
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Hard drive, hard drive hard drive.
This is the bottle neck in the performance of every computer. The CPU does trillions of calculations and memory does GB/s and the hard drive comes limping along, not even close to catching up.
The normal old school drives have 3 platters that spin at either 5400 rpms or 7200 rpms. There is 1 arm that moves, reads and writes the data to the spinning platters.
When you start windows you have services, drivers, programs and all that loading up. The drive can only do 1 thing at a time, so everything must wait its turn, thus the drive queue. The more programs and such the slower the boot up of course, also as a drive gets older or is having trouble it slows down, making the system slower as well.
This is why SSD is nice right now. It opens that bottle neck far better. No moving parts, drives are up to 20X or more faster. I put a SSd drive in a old 9 year old xp machine and it went from a 7 min boot up to a 30 sec boot up (The old drive was 54oo rpm and it was dieing, painfully)
So while disabling things and making less need for the drive will always make things faster, remember that if nothing has changed and it is getting slower then that could be a sign something is up with the drive. But no matter what, if you are able, get an SSD. Ever since I went to them I cant stand running off my old standard drives lol
Shane
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This is why SSD is nice right now. It opens that bottle neck far better. No moving parts, drives are up to 20X or more faster. I put a SSd drive in a old 9 year old xp machine and it went from a 7 min boot up to a 30 sec boot up (The old drive was 54oo rpm and it was dieing, painfully)
As a comparison here is mine for a 1.2GHz Celeron with 512MB RAM (100MHz), 40GB IDE HDD, a real dinosaur of a machine, but you can see how quickly it boots with uneeded services and hardware disabled, faster than I thought, less than 23 seconds :wink:
No SSD here, on a 14 year old machine :wink:
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That is the equivalent to finding a four leaf clover, you lucky s.o.b lol
Sometimes you get some cherry hardware, and if you have the need to use the drive to a min then you got a good boot.
Shane