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Title: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 06, 2015, 02:56:24 pm
I bought an new 8GB USB flash drive and something wasn’t right where it not gave my a full 8GB of 8GB

it used 7.44GB free of 7.45GB so how i can to restore it of 8GB ?
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Samson on July 06, 2015, 03:07:18 pm
I bought an new 8GB USB flash drive and something wasn’t right where it not gave my a full 8GB of 8GB

it used 7.44GB free of 7.45GB so how i can to restore it of 8GB ?

Manufactureres sell 8,000,000,000 Byte drives as 8GB

So
7812500KB
7629MB
7.45GB
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Boggin on July 06, 2015, 03:12:50 pm
7.45GB is all you get on an 8GB stick.

If you think that is short changed, I recently bought a 1TB external HDD which max's out at 931GB.

I think what it is, is that vendors call 1000KB=1MB instead of 1024KB=1MB and so on.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 06, 2015, 03:32:22 pm
I bought an new 8GB USB flash drive and something wasn’t right where it not gave my a full 8GB of 8GB

it used 7.44GB free of 7.45GB so how i can to restore it of 8GB ?

Manufactureres sell 8,000,000,000 Byte drives as 8GB

So
7812500KB
7629MB
7.45GB

aha You seem to be excellent in mathematics! lol  :wink: thank you  :smiley:
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 06, 2015, 03:36:18 pm
7.45GB is all you get on an 8GB stick.

If you think that is short changed, I recently bought a 1TB external HDD which max's out at 931GB.

I think what it is, is that vendors call 1000KB=1MB instead of 1024KB=1MB and so on.

so that is a Normal ? and also i have noted that there is a Guide and setup file into the USB flash drive ? I never seen such a files before lol !  :wink: thank you for info  :smiley:
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Samson on July 06, 2015, 04:08:55 pm
More info on storage capacity measurements here....It's a bit of a con/ marketing trick, sellers use decimal, we use binary.

http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/194563en
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Boggin on July 06, 2015, 04:14:28 pm
i have noted that there is a Guide and setup file into the USB flash drive ? I never seen such a files before lol !  :wink: thank you for info  :smiley:
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I get that on the Cruzer Edge sticks that I buy but there was even more on the Seagate 1TB external drive which I got rid of by formatting it.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 06, 2015, 08:51:20 pm
good info Samson and Boggin  :artist: :tongue: and I have some Questions here

1- for making an bootable USB flash drive for windows 7 > how many USB flash drive GB space I need for ?

2- for Kaspersky Rescue Disk ISO file > how many USB flash drive GB space I need for ?
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: jraju on July 06, 2015, 09:38:52 pm
Hi, I think 4 gb is enough, but 8 g b , i prefer.
                                                You should format before doing that. You have to insert some cmd commands to do before you do that.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 06, 2015, 10:05:37 pm
Hi, I think 4 gb is enough, but 8 g b , i prefer.
                                                You should format before doing that. You have to insert some cmd commands to do before you do that.

good to hear from you so which commands is that ?  :tongue:
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: jraju on July 06, 2015, 10:51:08 pm
Hi, Please see this link
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,2828.msg19452.html#msg19452
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Julian on July 06, 2015, 11:33:06 pm
Easy way I can think of is windows uses base 2 file size count.

If windows was to switch over to base 10 file size count you would see a bigger size usb.

so if windows had base 10 file size instead of base 2
you would download a file thats 230 mb from the internet and when you look at it on your usb it  would show up as 250mb instead. kinda weird eh?

Base 2= binary (0 and 1)
Base 10= decimal (0-9)
Base 16= hexidecimal (0-9 A-F)
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Boggin on July 07, 2015, 01:10:34 am
Windows use hexadecimal because the memory addresses are so large.

When I created a bootable USB using Windows USB/DVD Burner Tool, I was prompted to format it first to NTFS, but I noticed in the link JR has posted that Diskpart formats it to FAT32.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: jraju on July 07, 2015, 01:27:14 am
Hi,  Boggins,
It will format automatically to NTFS. That is what i know of . But there was no problem. The tool is entirely different.
                   here we do not use any tool , but some cmd commands and total copy. Whereas usb dvd is set tool for this purpose.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 07, 2015, 11:28:51 am
Easy way I can think of is windows uses base 2 file size count.

If windows was to switch over to base 10 file size count you would see a bigger size usb.

so if windows had base 10 file size instead of base 2
you would download a file thats 230 mb from the internet and when you look at it on your usb it  would show up as 250mb instead. kinda weird eh?

Base 2= binary (0 and 1)
Base 10= decimal (0-9)
Base 16= hexidecimal (0-9 A-F)

yeah this wired and I hop there is no hiding adware/malware into my USB flash drive  :cheesy: that will using that space like laptops vendor already do that into it
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 07, 2015, 11:32:28 am
Hi, Please see this link
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,2828.msg19452.html#msg19452

I don’t understand that commands :confused: would you gave my the right commands ?
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 07, 2015, 11:35:28 am
Windows use hexadecimal because the memory addresses are so large.

When I created a bootable USB using Windows USB/DVD Burner Tool, I was prompted to format it first to NTFS, but I noticed in the link JR has posted that Diskpart formats it to FAT32.

this Microsoft tool is good to go with it ? or there any good tool to making a USB disk for windows 7

and do I need to format the new USB flash drive? If yes , which format type I need to go ?
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Julian on July 07, 2015, 11:42:59 am
Hi, Please see this link
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,2828.msg19452.html#msg19452

I don’t understand that commands :confused: would you gave my the right commands ?
Code: [Select]
diskpart
Code: [Select]
select disk # (#= the number of the disk so change the # symbol into a number)

example:

 Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
  --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
  Disk 0    Online          149 GB      0 B     I have the disk numbers in red for you.
  Disk 1    Online         3834 MB      0 B 

next you type in
Code: [Select]
clean
Code: [Select]
create partition primary
Code: [Select]
format fs=fat32 quickwait for it to complete then type in
Code: [Select]
active then after everything type in
Code: [Select]
exitAfter you are finished if you look at the properties of a usb you will get
I posted a pic
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 07, 2015, 01:18:09 pm
Hi, Please see this link
http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,2828.msg19452.html#msg19452

I don’t understand that commands :confused: would you gave my the right commands ?
Code: [Select]
diskpart
Code: [Select]
select disk # (#= the number of the disk so change the # symbol into a number)

example:

 Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
  --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
  Disk 0    Online          149 GB      0 B     I have the disk numbers in red for you.
  Disk 1    Online         3834 MB      0 B 

next you type in
Code: [Select]
clean
Code: [Select]
create partition primary
Code: [Select]
format fs=fat32 quickwait for it to complete then type in
Code: [Select]
active then after everything type in
Code: [Select]
exitAfter you are finished if you look at the properties of a usb you will get
I posted a pic

ok, i will give this a try and report back! thank
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Boggin on July 07, 2015, 02:40:36 pm
I created my bootable USB directly from the ISO and not converting from a DVD which is probably why I was prompted to format to NTFS first.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Julian on July 07, 2015, 10:43:26 pm
oh format to ntfs is good as well sorry.
 I just translated that other post for you that you did not understand the commands to.
Title: Re: 8GB USB flash drive Inquiry
Post by: Gamezertruth on July 08, 2015, 03:43:54 pm
oh format to ntfs is good as well sorry.
 I just translated that other post for you that you did not understand the commands to.

ok I have not yet to run the commands so to be sure which format type I need to go with ? thank you