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Main Forum => General Computer Support => Topic started by: me on June 19, 2012, 10:37:25 pm
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Hey.. Been trying to find an answer to this for 10 months now... Running windows 7 ultimate 64 bit..I loose control I thought but yesterday discovered that in a complete diffrent system verbage is bad but could not load programs kept saying could not find even music file.. Have a few s1 userfiles attached to recycle bin not sure if that normal...I show a static ip if I check on a site that also says it is my cable company.. If I do ipconfig I grt another ip neither has changed for awhile..I can go on and on bottom line I have gone threw 2 computers and I do a complete install about once a week but i keep hearing nothing wrong...Its working good now just wiped disk nother install have 4 usb hard drives showing now that never before if anyone can help.... THANKS..I think zombie thing but I dont no much about these things....
Me
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I had trouble understanding that LOL :wink:
Can you post any error messages that you are getting (if any)?
Shane
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Hey.. Been trying to find an answer to this for 10 months now... Running windows 7 ultimate 64 bit..I loose control I thought but yesterday discovered that in a complete diffrent system verbage is bad but could not load programs kept saying could not find even music file.. Have a few s1 userfiles attached to recycle bin not sure if that normal...I show a static ip if I check on a site that also says it is my cable company.. If I do ipconfig I grt another ip neither has changed for awhile..I can go on and on bottom line I have gone threw 2 computers and I do a complete install about once a week but i keep hearing nothing wrong...Its working good now just wiped disk nother install have 4 usb hard drives showing now that never before if anyone can help.... THANKS..I think zombie thing but I dont no much about these things....
Me
Here is just one of the programs I have running.. Wanted to send another but keeps saying I dont have permission...I had trouble understanding that LOL :wink:
Can you post any error messages that you are getting (if any)?
Shane
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It looks like you did not get my post where I sent system info.. I will try and find and send again.. This is also an issue
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It looks like you did not get my post where I sent system info.. I will try and find and send again.. This is also an issue
See if you get this http://speccy.piriform.com/results/VAh5DjsOT23qUeIJ8D63dYf this will show somethings
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Still didnt answer my question lol
What exactly are you having trouble with? :wink:
Can you post any screen shots of errors your getting?
Shane
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said error no attachments so not noing I will try one at a time
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bb
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Ok I see the log files showing your system info and things that are loaded.
But in the first post I had trouble understanding what the problem is your having :wink:
Shane
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I have sent you probly 3 to 5 messages you didnt get...First thing Thankyou again.. Closet I can figure Im a zombie network I uploaded some stuff to photobucket.. You probly wont be able to see it though user shovelhead pw zaqxsw12.. quick run down... Did you look at the specy info under scheduled tasks attached to goole update the S1 user files... if you can see those pics or inform me of another way to get them to you you will see a hole other system.. I use to think I was loosing the authority to open the files or programs then realized diffrent screen even now my welcome screen is not correct it does not have the use CRTJ ALT DEL to log on I have it sometimes say loacal disk C: or (OS)C: even had it say my computer...MY ip the router ip 192.168.??1 my ip 192.168.0.2 according to ipconfig.. if I go on line to check it is96.38.?.? wich also says my server charter.net..and these are also static... not suppose to be.. if I ping or nslookup shows server as NS1.RECURSIVE.DNS>com ip8.26.56.26 last week was quest suppoes to be charter...I have programs I did not install like yhe one that says woo1 aclset...and morenot windows have some windows but old from IE 95 I hopr you get this anyway... Thats another problem it sends or opens what it wants... THANKS AGAIN
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I will be more than happy to help.
First thing is I do need screen shots to fully understand what is going on. When you make a screen shot you can just attach it to the post on the forum. When posting you have an attachment option at the bottom :wink:
Shane
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another
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one more
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It booted up good so I thought I would try again ....
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I did a little checking on what shows as my server.. The name not found but ip is out of Ampsterdam.. The location was Kentucky..The S1 user files I cant make sence out of what I read they seem to be legit if you have users.. But should they have there own control and access to my entire system control panel admiin tools....I do appreciate your time an effort.. This is driving this old man crazy..
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Looks like you have some registry keys missing, and so things are not working correctly.
The best thing to do is a repair install
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html
This will allow windows to be reinstalled while keeping all your programs and settings :wink:
Shane
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I do appreciate your time just did a clean instal couple days ago...Would like to know why all these problems.. Again thanks
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I see a Windows.old folder.
Which the Windows 7 setup does when you either upgrade or install without formatting first.
Which did you do?
Shane
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I used a disk wipe.... Beleive it or not.. This is a red flsg to me also Look at this you will see what shows as usb drives but there not.. Iam logged on to myself a remote machine in order to use this program...and these programs show desktop and switch view.. some more i did not install.. but they show shortcut links...
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My server should be charter and other is my ip.. My screen keeps fighting with me goes up and down and wont let me scrool at timess will scrool on its own
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Try creating a new user on the machine and logging in under that user, does that fix anything?
Shane
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Yeah Ive tryed before and did again...Doesn't seem to make much diffrence...I guess Im the type that wants to know why it messed up.. Now seems to be working but I delete probly 800 registry keys and god know's how many files aweek to keep it working...Ive got a nasty.. Still have services that cant be found but using resources.. Cant delete cuz cant find..I have tryed to totally wipe disk and do clean install but that doesn't work..My dvd player somehow is part of whatever this is so burning something is out of the question...Have 4 usb drives that not suppose to be there but are..Can you answer this for me am i suppose to be considered a stand alone workstation??? All this stuff with the ip addresses are driving me crazy knowone from my internet provider or netgear my router can explain.. Wish it was like old days when you could just connect to internet without this network stuff.. Anyway again THANK-YOU...Any ideas directions would be much appreciated....
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this look right to you as stuff I should have
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did pick something up
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When your scan shows any thing thats says "Generic" in it, it is 90% of the time a false positive.
The fact that you did a fresh install and things are still working odd makes me wonder if it is a hardware problem.
Have you done a bad sector check on the hard drive and tested the memory yet?
Shane
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I did a chkdsk this morning havent done a memory in a while I will now this computer only 2 moths maybe 3 months old.
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http://www.macecraft.com/services/hosts/hosts This link i found in a hidden temp internet file is this normal for host file.. I thiught it was just suppose to be LocalHost 127.0.0.1
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It is suppose to be just the 1 entry.
That site makes a list of known bad sites, you put them into your host file to keep your system from going to them.
I never do that though. Every single connection your system makes has to loop through that file. It WILL slow the internet down on the system because of those lookups. :wink:
Shane
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Then where or why would I have things like that...Now I am back to showing my normal server.. Should I delete those usb hard drives that are showing...I guess Ill just keep deleting files that don't belong but most of them just keep coming back..Should I have all the user files and registry keys...Again Thank-You...
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these drives might say generic but they are there.....This is also the first time in I dont know how long when I do a command prompt for diskpart that it says my computer name usually says minint or something close and instead of saying system32 it says x:\system.. Dont know why things are startingto look normal but would like to know how to keep this way and what was messing with it... Cuz I would be willing to bet things will change...
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ever seen this before this was in a hidden history file...http://www.elahmad.com/getURL.swf
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Those drive letters showing up is nothing to worry about.
It just looks like you have a card reader in your system. And they each get a drive letter :wink:
Shane
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zlet me ask you this.. Since my computer only couple moths old.. Still under warr.. So hp gonna send new install discs.. Gonna do hopefully a clean install any ideas for security and how to get my software in clean..
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I myself just use the free version of Avast antivirus.
Make sure your behind a router and you dont really need a software firewall.
And just make sure to keep java and flash up to date as that is how a lot of viruses from infected sites get in.
Other than that just be careful deleting things out of the registry as it will break Windows :wink:
Shane
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I do appreciate all your help... I wonder if my router has not been invaded.. The password does not work.. I dont know Im loosing control on this one again...It keeps telling me I dont have the authority or just access denined...Your software is awsome ad thanks for the time .. I have visited and will again your donation page...
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You can always do a reset to put the router back to defaults :wink:
Shane
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have to be able to get into it to do that I thought.. Anyway I have lost any useability of my computer.. I running a rescue disk mini xp to contact you.. It says cannot find my user profile.. So log on with other and everything I try to do says cannot find path make sure spelled correctly..Did use malware bytes and got 12 trojans avast found 2 but still not working did safemode andtryed a restore to no avail... When it boots comes to a screen that says hold down space bar and hit anyother key to load previous mbr but did not seem to work. Screen goes by so fast did not get all detail.. But again there is something wrong and what ever it is it is very nasty...
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Routers have a reset button on the back of them :wink:
Looks like something really hosed the machine. Either hardware, a virus, or you deleted something on accident. Anyway a reinstall is a good idea, as long as all the hardware is good of course.
Shane
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these look normal in a hidden file in C: called totalcmd also languages
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totalcmd?
Shane
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I take it that is not where I should find those logs....Totalcmd is the name of the file where I found those logs and another file named languages...Like I said many files that arent mine.. Trying to find out anything cuz just did factory reset and will bet wont be long before I have to do again
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Never heard of totalcmd.
So I looked it up and found
http://www.ghisler.com/
Looks like you installed something that is overtaking some things in Windows, which could explain a lot of your problems :wink:
Shane
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I have done a "clean" install twice since my last post.. Before this one tryed to wipe disk with kill disk.. It showed One partition that held my system another with operating system #2 and an unallocated unactive partition that could not be deleted.. So before hooking up to internet I ran your program system info... Wondering how it looks to you.. Remember no internet install with hp factory disk.. Yours was the first program I ran.... Any ideas.. This is getting really old any help would be much appreciated....
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When you used their restore disks it put everything back to the way it was when it came from the store.
I hate the default installs. Was hoping you had a normal install disk and would install fresh without all their crap lol.
What problems are you still having after the restore?
Shane
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Well had to do another instal... Went to reboot got the old blue screen...So I tryed all I knew (wich is very limited).. But did find that bios is running free dos7.5 did not think that normal...Also those drives that were showing up as usb hard drives generic now showing as floppy that could not be accessed by kill disk when trying to wipe...Im using my laptop that is having same issues.. Fresh install from a oem windows disk here is the log from your system info on this ine
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Fresh reinstalls shouldn't be giving you trouble unless you have something wrong with the hardware.
The bios couldn't be running free dos, I think you might mean something else. :wink:
Also remember that the extra drive letters are normal. You have a card reader install on the system, each slot will get a drive letter. This is normal. :wink:
Shane
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what ive been reading...According to the software I ran it was.. But My knowledge is only what Ive learned chasing this....I need to find software or away of seeing things that the norm doesnt show.. Even if I click devices and printers then click on my computer name then harware it shows drives devices that dont normally show.. Even windows defender offline shows 3 more drives then I can see with any thing I no of....I do know my server is not right I still cant get into my router still have static ip that is diffrent then what ipconfig shows.. Was using comodo virus and firewall but was blocking everything i wanted and I gues letting everything else threw... I did a leakage test pretty vonerable... When I went to uninstall showed 2 sepereate versions uninstaller would not work.. Got a hold of there tek people geek buddy what a joke they used every tool they had and said reboot I lost internet connection had to reload eithernet ... Not showing up as a running program but when I reboot get ab error message from it saying it is not running...I dont know if this is normal but says 2 users on my computer I showmyself uas running from my computer as a domain .. I show system as user name running NTauthority.. I show Local computer as username runinng under NTauthority...I can go on and on.. This on a factory disk install afyer wiping disk less then20 hours ago.. I will send this to you agaain maybe make sence to you... I have no network just me no virtual..
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So far I can tell that some things you think are problems are not.
While other things I am not fully understanding as you describe them :wink:
How old is the system and is it still under warranty by any chance?
Shane
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2 months... Yes it is but the last one isnt it was 8 months...
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Tell me these logs and screen shots are normal and I will consider myself crazy and never touch a computer again...On screen shots check out the 2 c drives C:\ and the other is C:\...... and there is an error message in the shot also...
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So you went into a folder on the C:\ drive that was labeled "..."
When you went into it it had everything on C: listed again but you cant access anything.
Your right, that shouldnt be there. A program had to of made that. It is a folder with a symbiotic link back to the C:\ drive.
You can use this to view if there are any setup for that folder
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896768.aspx
Shane
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I could not get program to work.. System does that... But I ran another program I have that will show you the same... I think.. I have been trying to get this question answered for months what do these junction type files mean....Did you get a chance to look at the log file I sent..Again... THANK-YOU........
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A junction is a link.
So a folder can be pointed to a different path.
Where this helps would be programs that try to access the old paths say to the profile paths.
So a program tries to go to C:\Documents and Settings. On XP this is fine but In Vista and 7 it is in a new area. So by having a junction (Windows has this one by default) and point it to the new path the old program will still work fine :-)
C:\\Documents and Settings
Type is JUNCTION
Final Destination:
C:\Users
The file you attached shows all normal junction points.
It didnt list the ... folder on the C: drive.
Some installed program has to of created it. Windows doesn't create that one by default.
Shane
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Thanks doesnt make sence to me but... T he program you wanted me to run I cant it goes threw all the moitions and then flasshes awaay...So did some checking the info I saw was to use net freame work or visual..Well could not get in could not uninstal could not install ran a cmd said fatal error no inputs anyway.. Did a little more checking and the error that comes up when you try to open something on that drive is the program looking for unavailible either on a network or platform not availible.. The files say 0 bytes...So did a search for modems came up with 2 folders that have all pictures tryed to open in note pad but just jumble.. I sent an attachment with some of those files.. Then I unplugged and disconnected my router and ran a dns scan on my local ip 127.0.0.1 threw 127.0.0.255 and got 16 diffrent ping replies....Thought that not good....I did manage to get in my router for a few before I got shut down and it shows in the internal settings an ip for router as 10.93.21.45.. But when checked not the right one..now when I do ipconfig shows my ip as 192.168.0.10 I get diffrent when I go to whats my ip or any site....My computer is now Host ip 92.242.144.50 also show as workstation and terminal server...[email]Sorry for the way attachment is but only way it would go.. Sent a reply cant get it to load
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The pictures you sent are normal. They are added by the manufacture.
And your IP is fine.
Your modem/Router has the internet IP and it gives your computer a local IP.
A router takes the one internet connection and routes it to multiple devices. So it hands out its own local IP like 192.168.
If you need to host anything on a computer you just setup port forwarding rules
http://www.pcwintech.com/what-port-forwarding-nutshell
Shane
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I know you think Im crazy.. Along with many more but I had to do a reinstall again.. It was so bad that it said installer had no authority to open a file... All I no is there is somthing wrong.. With a unplugged and disconnected router that I still cant get in With the program you suggested 16 pings returns with 0 packet loss ip range 127.0.0.1-255 I know local....shouldnt happen I loked at some log files here is a copy... I asked this question before why am I a workstation-stand a lone server.. Also those s1... files you will see are messing with my registry....a couple belarc reports and screen shot of usb devices connected to ports i disconected 2 on bottom.. they show up as generic.. So false positive??????
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I know you think Im crazy..
Just a little, but then again so am I lol :wink:
Honestly I think you have a hardware problem. If it is under warranty I think you should replace it while you still can.
Shane
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I really wish it was that easy.. Just got home fired it up...I didnt put a password for me yet but low and be hold I couldnt get into my system without one....Getting the password reset I discovered that I also have listed as a user is $Homegroupusers...Did you have a chance to look at those system logs of warnings programs not opening or opening users keeping register keys open...All the holes in my security...That if I knew how to fix I would the one about being able to access my system from internet worries as do most of the others...I also have a laptop that is less then a year old that will not load windows correctly faught this same fight with it till I could not get it to work any more.. So I got this one same problems...I find some interesting software that I know did not come with windows some of it works with 95 98 ME XP but not Vista or 7... Also cant use software that loads from shell just flshs away...I have 3 2005 microsoft visul c ++ one is 64 bit other 2 not sure have microsoft framework.net clent profile 2 of them 3 2008 and 2 2010.. The ones that really make me wonder are the 2 MSXmL SP2.. I thought those were for XP or at least service pack 2..Ialso found 7 HP.. programs that were listed as not correctly installed 4 of them are for HP touch smart I dont have that.. Alot of what is in those logs are about touch smart programs and 2 of the other are the same program they were ok earlier....Now I know that I have problems with the voices......But something is going on.. I know very little about computers but I do know what is going on with mine when things are diffrent.. This plyredy runtime pc 2 other programs that worry me... Maybe I think like I do is because whaen all this started happening and know one would listen I had to check some other avenues we will say.. And all these orograms that are microsoft that I just said I had Ive heard stories of coding networking aquirying liceces... they all seem to fit with this whole beleaf in this zombie network...I just want it gone.... Again THANK-YOU...you seem like a very interesting and careing individual...Love the attitude you put forth.. Your profile pic is awsome makes quite a statement.....
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Some of the things you see are normal for a Windows install, other things are not.
What you REALLY need to do is not do a factory reinstall, but a fresh Windows only install.
You will need to get a copy of the Windows install of the net, but then you will have a clean fresh install of Windows. No extra programs that come preinstalled on the factory restore.
It has to be the preinstalled software from the manufacture that you are seeing these changes. I NEVER use the factory installs. In fact when my customers get a store bought machine the first thing I do is format it and install Windows fresh. :wink:
Shane
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I have a windows disk I purchased.. Until 2 installs ago thats what I used because there recovery was corrupt if that is what you mean that should work... My laptop will tell me that windows cannot be installed not right format... I can get it to run but not right.. I usally have problem no network devise realtek eithernet..This last install there were 3 adapters did not even have to configure for server... suppose to of been formatted disk
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When you reinstall you will need the drivers for the hardware.
Download the network card drivers fo rit first, save them to a thumb drive.
Then when you boot off the Windows cd it will start the setup. When you get to where it shows the hard drive I want you to delete all the partitions. So when done you will just have one large partition.
Then install Windows on there. When done load the network card drivers and you can get on the net and use Windows updates to pull the rest. Any it misses you can get from the mfg website. :wink:
Shane
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Ill give it a shot and let you know...Thanks
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I will be here :-)
Shane
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Just an update if interested... Before I hac the chance to do much started having major problems could not use programs etc... So my mind set is to find out as much as I can and no one really wants to talk or answer questions I can understand so I start looking more agressively...Did another check on my bios after you telling me that free dos couldnt be there not disputing sometimes I dont explain well.. So I checked for extentions and this is what came up...FreeDos 7.01 running
Advanced power management not activated or not accessible...
Plug and Play Bios V1.0
Pci Bios V3.0
IBM/MS IntelV0.3
System mannagement Bios V2.7
Desktop management interface V2.7
Vesa Bios V3.0
VBE power management V1.0
Accellerated function not actuated PCMCI socket services..
May be normal I dont know but that V worries me...Maybe you could enliten me.. Also can you point me where I can do some research on S1 user files
Again Thanks
My Norton thats what Im running now has picked up a couple bad files and a couple other programs have done the same...
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What is the make and model of your system and I will check the mfg site for a bios update and more info on the type of bios :wink:
Shane
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According to them there is no update but this is all greek to me HP pavilion p71225 windows 7 premium 64 bit
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Wow first time I have never seen a bios update for store bought computers lol
They do have a hardware tester
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=cp-102716-1&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&os=4063&product=5230179&sw_lang=
Might be a good idea just to make sure the hardware is good.
Shane
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I downloaded it as soon as I could see the cd player does not want to cooperate... I delt with hp a couple times.. I have heard a story or two that it is a good point to latch on toooo...As soon as I did a reload i down loaded it and hearing you saying maybe that I have used it memory ck disk everything I can think of....There are a couple more little quirks... My system time and actual time do not match.. Windows cant correct...My screen jumps maybe a third of the way.. Annoying when trying to read I bounce it back but probly doesnt matter....On a security log said my guest account had unlimited access may be a risk.. Use to have a picture for my account now on log in page there is just a frame a blank frame use to show administrater with pic and guest with pick all were passwordrd for the good that does... When this happened earlier My password was diffrent I can be sure of that cuz didnt have one......Goodd thing im pretty good at picking a lock...Now your going to really think I lost it... But I have a couple very helpful programs that either totally dissapair or you just cant find them..
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Maybe you can help... The internet is not the place to get answers if you dont already know.. I keep getting error cant open program you are missing netapi32.dll try reinstalling...According to search everything I havs 14 difrent locations where that file is checked out afew and there it is....I know deeper then that I cant access user accounts and a few other things...
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You get we will say tired of hearing from me let me know....You have steered me in a directon of things are alot more understandable....I ran a couple programs to check access and other things that lot of empty spots and ??? sent you a couple alook at connections... thought it was interesting there all double...Starting to understand junctions and parsing thanks.. Do have quite a few files thats cant be opened for diffrent reasons....the cryoto machine keys kinda worry me... I found a couple virtual but pc locks or get an error when trying to check them out..
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After hearing of so many odd problems, and knowing that you did fresh installs and things are still going nuts.
To put it simply a system should and wont act this way after a fresh install unless the hardware is bad.
I truly believe you have bad hardware, and I really think you should get the system replaced while you still can. :wink:
When it comes to bad hardware there is nothing you can do to make it better except replace the bad hardware.
Shane
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I know you think hardware.. Tryed to do a instal off just windows not work did disk wipe and tryed.. nope tryed factory nope keep getting redirected.. so did some checking... Remember told you my bios was running freedos 7.1.. Now with disk wiped it shows not only bios extentions but name of system is freedos 7.1 and do you have any ideas suggestions people to talk with
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Freedos isnt a bios but just an old school OS before Windows.
FreeDOS is a free DOS-compatible operating system that can be used to play games, run legacy software, or support embedded systems. FreeDOS is basically like the old MS-DOS, but better! For example, unlike MS-DOS, FreeDOS lets you access FAT32 file systems and use large disk support (LBA).
http://www.freedos.org/
A lot of companies use it when they need to run things in dos out side of Windows. So I can see HP having that on the system in order for you to run their tools outside of Windows. But again, it wont be part of the bios. Most likely installed on the HP partition on the drive.
Shane
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If your interested..Tryed to get a copy but wouldnt happen..While in windows it showed my disk.. But when I tryed to wipe disk and check system info on diffrent programs it showed as a clone..Operating system showed as freedos 7.15.. Even in windows when you went to add or remove programs said no programs installed.. My C drive showed up as one of the 4 usb hard drives...It got to the point that could not load the windows disk the way I wanted.. The factory disc would not load at all they would boot to the repair recovery screen. Then say this computer does not support that option...I think this will be more prevlent then what yu think..I hope some time soon I can find some one or someway to help prevent it from happening again and how to detecr and keep out...Thank-You for your time and knowledge...
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http://www.gammadyne.com/cmdline.htm Just one link freeware
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With out me being able to see it myself it makes it hard on what to have you try next.
The problems you described are very odd and the first time I have heard of them. They sound like hardware errors. But you said getting it replaced isnt doable.
Shane
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I know I was just saying if you were interested.. Been running tests for about 2 hours with hp tek people... No problems but still cant load there factery disks or now even oem windows....I used a linx program and wiped disk used ultimate boot there disk wipe then formatted it with there program then in the repair shell used diskpart and formatted and and made active... windows disk still says cant load windws wrong format... hp disk load to a false program that says wrong info.. Again Thank-You just thought for your own knowledge you might want to know....Getting closer to where someone will have to beleive that Im having these problems and working off the script wont do it....Im lost in the whole commands and code of all the things I have lost.... I miss my mind the most.. What I read seems to indicate that is what it will take to get it gone...Thanks again
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tryed have pics but cant send
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I got your pics.
The D: drive looks like it is the factory Restore disk and not a straight Windows setup disk.
Shane
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Thanks when I figure it out and I will... I will let you know...I may just take it to a place and pay... This windows (TM) code name longhorn that shows as cC:\ drive and other crazy things many programs like ie4 ie5 and more that ork on xp and some vista make me wonder... Im curious.. its like the tear drop trojan or zero access.. Simple things me not being able to get into my routrr I know about reset i have been doing this for almost ayear now..I dont no all the fancy verbage.. But i do no when something is diffrent or wrong on my pc.. even microsoft had to force a registration key not once but twice. There responce i did my job its as genuine as can be and my job is ti get that done bfor you... That is the problem.. But again I do thank you for all your in put
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I think i have an idea of what is going on... screenshot will show that I cannot untick the sharing settings.. it says allow other users to control that.. my internet providers cant help but say its not right can you point me in right direction...
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That is normal. It is the same way on my machine as well :wink:
That only becomes enabled when someone uses the internet connection sharing in Windows (Which you normally never need or use)
Shane