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Main Forum => General Computer Support => Topic started by: Lady on January 08, 2017, 05:39:10 am
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Hello again,
I wanted to defrag my laptop (W8.1, shell W7) with O&O defrag free (edition 14.1) which I use on my desktop (W7) but it says it has compatibility issues. It says it can still be run but since I'll also be defragging the C: partition with Windows on it, I'm afraid to just use it.
I can download the defrag freeware edition from the O&O website anew but then I'd have to enter my e-mail address and I'd rather not. And it doesn't say there which version I'll get. https://www.oo-software.com/en/free/download.html
Majorgeeks.com has the 14.1 edition.
Is this compatibility issue really a problem? And is the compatibility mode any good?
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I wouldn't bother with a 3rd party defragger.
Open a Command Prompt (Admin) and enter defrag /c which will analyze all drives within Windows and will defrag as necessary.
Note the space before /
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Thank you again, Boggin. I'll do that tomorrow. It's a shame though that O&O didn't work. I really liked using it.
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- Try Piriform's Defraggler. I have used the program to move all non-system files towards the end of the drive.
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Thank you for your suggestion, Willy2! I'll have a look. O&O works fine with W7 and it really sped up my pc again now that I just defragged it.
I'm probably terribly biased because of all the problems I've had with Windows, but I'd rather work with a trusted 3rd party.
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I defragged my C: partition with Defraggler. It says now that it has fragments and fragmented files and 0% fragmentation. That sounds odd to me. I've never seen this before. I ran the program for errors on C: but all was well. Is it okay like this?
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- Some files/directory (files) won't/can't be defragmented by the program like $MFT, System Restore Points, .............
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Or.......maybe I misunderstood and it's the number of files that were defragged and not the number that have to be but cannot.
How about that? :smiley:
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- No, it's quite clear. The screenshot says 66 fragmented files which are in total 213 MB that still are defragmented, after youtried to defragment the drive. I can't help that Windows 8 won't allow to move/defragment those files. That was different in Win XP.
- What info does the does the "Files" tab provide ?
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When I open the File list and do CTR A on the list and right click, I get the following options:
Defrag highlighted
Move highlighted to end of drive
Check highlighted
Save list to text file
Benchmark file
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- The question should have been: what (kind of) files are showing up in the file list after the program has defragmented the drive (just defragment all fragmented files) ?
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I had taken a look at the files and they're all sorts of files, mostly from my antivirus/firewall program BullGuard and Adobe. Here are a few (sorry, the tabs didn't get copied):
Filename Fragments Size Path
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fw-2017-01-09.txt 1 3339718 C:\ProgramData\BullGuard\Logs\Firewall\
BsMain.log 1 5312040 C:\ProgramData\BullGuard\
mbae-protector.xpe 1 6360624 C:\ProgramData\Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit\
DataCache.db 1 1459905 C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\ClassicShell\
dalvik.ivd 1 15220056 C:\Program Files\Common Files\BullGuard Ltd\BullGuard\Antivirus\Definitions2\Plugins\
rna-main.js 1 1424356 C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat Reader DC\Reader\WebResources\Resource0\static\js\
Ns.bkup 1 65536 C:\ProgramData\BullGuard\Behavioural\
memory.hdmp 12 775358 C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue
\AppCrash_BgWsc.exe_2dac83ed5abd91438feca99a9734f851c9c8d6_be5474cc_cab_1a2444a1\
auto.000 1 8503904 C:\Program Files\Common Files\BullGuard Ltd\BullGuard\Antivirus\Definitions1\Plugins\
SecondaryLogonCKCL.etl 1 15335424 C:\Windows\System32\wdi\LogFiles\
cache.005 1 11609870 C:\Program Files\Common Files\BullGuard Ltd\BullGuard\Antivirus\Definitions1\Plugins\
urls.db 1 549213 C:\ProgramData\BullGuard\
dalvik.ivd 1 15161015 C:\Program Files\Common Files\BullGuard Ltd\BullGuard\Antivirus\Definitions1\Plugins\
cache.001 1 12858429 C:\Program Files\Common Files\BullGuard Ltd\BullGuard\Antivirus\Definitions2\Plugins\
urls.db.tmp 9 344064 C:\ProgramData\BullGuard\
I also looked in Piriform's forum and saw exactly the same problem......without an answer.
https://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=47497
So I ran defrag /c too. Maybe the simple answer to this is that Defraggler is the only program which lists undefragged files?
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Did the cmd show all volumes as 0% Fragmentation on completion ?
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Yes, it did.
Right after I defragged with Windows I ran Defraggler's analysis as I forgot something I needed for my previous answer here and it showed that C: now has 3% fragmentation. :rolleyes: Are we rooting for Windows or for Piriform? :cheesy:
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(Groeten uit Nederland)
- Right. These files are "locked" and can't be moved\defragmented.
- Same story for the files of the folder "System volume Information" on a Win 7 system where the files for the System Restore Points are placed. But Win XP allows the program these files to be moved. A matter of permissions, I assume.
- Yes, that's a "negative" for this program. Wouldn't know if the regular build-in disk defragmentation program is able to defragment those files.
- I use the program to regularly move all non-system files towards the end of the drive and all system folders (e.g. c:\Program files, C:\Users, C:\windows, .............. ) to the beginning of the drive.
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- But as long as the program defragments the majority of the files I wouldn't worry too much.
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I've always gotten 0% Fragmentation with Windows own tools, but I use Norton.
Perhaps BullGuard works differently.
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- But as long as the program defragments the majority of the files I wouldn't worry too much.
My thought exactly.
We're done with this one. Thanks guys!
En de hartelijke groeten terug! :cheesy: