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Title: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 28, 2017, 03:46:19 am
Have gone through your items in Windows repair, - however repair won't start. Question: When choosing the item "start in safe mode", should it close down and restart from that menu? It does not and when I restart the PC manually I get into the same mode, which is why I guess the repair does not start. What can I do to get past this point? Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 28, 2017, 06:12:05 am
When you use the program to boot into Safe Mode, it does just that and you have to manually start the program as you would in normal mode.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 30, 2017, 07:42:12 am
Hi,

May be I was not clear enough: When Tweaking" ask me to start in safe condition with networking, I agree, and the program asks whether I want to do it now. When I agree, and push the button, Tweaking disappears from the screen, however the PC does nada, no restart, no nothing.

If I reboot myself manually, all the programs are reloaded as usual, but that is probably not what you want?

When I ask for back up, nothing happens. When I go to Repair, it starts, but after 3 tries, it ask me to start in safe condition.

Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 30, 2017, 08:27:31 am
When you use the program to boot into Safe Mode, it will close all programs and then reboot into Safe Mode with Networking where you would start the program manually.

From what you say, it isn't booting you into Safe Mode ?

Are you able to boot into Safe Mode with Networking manually ?

Which version of Windows are you using ?
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 30, 2017, 12:21:25 pm
It is not booting. When I say yes to boot and push the button, the Tweaking window closes, and that is it. Nothing more happens.
I am not able to boot manually into safe mode. I am not able to find an earlier build, as my windows 10 says: "I cannot use this function because control of user account is set to always advise me of changes to the system". I don't know whether or where I can change this setting.

Another thing which has come up lately, is that I cannot run an .exe file, without having the program on my PC. I must look into my apps or call at the windows store, in order to find one that matches my download, which of course I not always can't. Pretty silly.

All in all: My Windows 10 is rotten!

Looking forward to your good advice. Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 30, 2017, 03:10:41 pm
The User Account Control (UAC) is there for a reason.

How are you trying to manually boot into Safe Mode with Networking ?

Can you right click on the Start button and select Command Prompt (Admin) - accept the UAC and type sfc /scannow then press enter to see what it reports.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 31, 2017, 02:00:27 am
When I do this I get a message saying (my translation from danish): "This file has no association in order to carry out the action. Install a program or if you have a program then make an association under standard programs."

The problem is, I don't know which program to associate with, and as previously mentioned, this goes for new and downloaded .exe files as well.

Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 31, 2017, 02:27:01 am
Let's see if this will work -

Go Start - click on the Settings cog - System - Default apps - scroll down and hit the Reset button and then try the Command Prompt (Admin) again.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 31, 2017, 06:28:15 am
I have done as requested, but with the same result, sorry. Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 31, 2017, 08:18:55 am
See if this File Association Fixer program will do it for you - I suggest you check all of the boxes but create a restore point first before downloading/running it.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/file-association-fixer-2-windows-10-8-7
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on January 31, 2017, 09:18:18 am
Have downloaded it but cannot start the .exe file as my pc has no file association for that program. Only for programs already installed, it seems.
So it's a catch 22 situation.
brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on January 31, 2017, 03:54:38 pm
I wonder if you'll be able to do a repair install....

Hit the Download tool now button in https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10 after reading the section for creating installation media and see if you can create an install disk.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 01, 2017, 01:09:07 am
I cannot run the .exe file as there is no association. I have tried Windows Store, but it cannot be found there.

Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 01, 2017, 03:32:31 am
I've asked to see if someone knows of a workaround for this, but I think the only way out would be a custom install, but you would still need access to another Windows machine to create the bootable media.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 01, 2017, 11:13:24 am
I have the license for windows 10 home. Could I download an installation from MS and install? Is it possible to cancel the Window files on my PC and reinstall Windows 10?
When I installed Windows 10 (upgrade from Windows 7) I made a rescue-disc with and ISO-file. Do you think I can load that, - and how do such a thing work?
Does it work like a normal Windows installation?
Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 01, 2017, 02:27:59 pm
There are three types "disk" you can create to help recover Win 10.

One is the System Repair Disk much like what you would/should have created when you had Win 7 which will get you to the Recovery Environment when you boot up with it, a second is an install disk created with the MCT and can be downloaded from the link I've posted and finally a Recovery USB but that can be between 8 and 16GB.

I've never created or used a Recovery USB.

You have already tried to download the ISO but the .exe got in the way.

Depending upon when you upgraded to Win 10 will depend on the ISO you got.

If it was pre-Aug. last year then it will be for 1511 and after Aug. it will be the current 1607 so I don't really know what type of disk you have created.

But to use either you would need to change the boot order.

You'll be able to get into the BIOS without any .exe getting in the way by pressing and holding F2 throughout a Restart until the BIOS comes up.

Use your cursor keys to navigate to the Boot tab and again to select ODD (CD/DVD drive) then use F5 or F6 to move that to the top of the list.

Insert the disk and press F10 - confirm then press any key to boot from CD/DVD when prompted.

You'll have to go through the motions with it to let me know what you get.

If you end up with a splash screen where you have the option to Install or Repair your computer, then select the Repair.

Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 02, 2017, 01:48:22 am
Thanks a lot for your advices. Will let you know, when I have performed the actions. Hopefully I will succeed! http://www.tweaking.com/forums/Smileys/smillhey/undecided.png
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 04, 2017, 08:57:18 am
When I got to repair the fun stopped. It said something about lack of files in order to perform a repair.
I have tried to start the PC in fail/safe condition.It made no difference, while standarddrivers and standardsetup apparently was ok.
I guess I have to reinstall Windows 10 (without deleting my files). If I do that, where should I tick a box in order to avoid this mess, where I don't have a build from where I can start again? When I try to start from a build, Windows says (in my translation): You cannot use this option because control of user account is set to always inform you  of changes to your system.
I have a backup of my C: partition from sep16, i.e. as far as I remember before my troubles began. If I restore my C: with the backup, do you think it will work
without problems? I mean does it "repair" the registry-problems?
Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 04, 2017, 09:10:43 am
Yes, I'd try that back up as your system will then be as is when you made the back up.

You will need to reinstall anything you have installed since that date of course and it will invoke Windows Update, but hopefully they won't have the same effect this time around.

If the back up is on an external HDD then it would be best to boot up with a system repair disk so that you avoid going through Windows.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 04, 2017, 11:14:28 am
Thanks, I will try that next week. I hope the exe files will work. I have the backup on an external HDD.
Will advise you of the results. Brgds, - and thanks a lot for all your prompt answers.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 04, 2017, 03:51:37 pm
Were you still on v1511 then ?
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 05, 2017, 02:04:24 am
Well, - I think W10 was updated during december16. I have 1607 now.
Also I don't know whether my backup will restore my C:. I guess this will require an .exe file too. We will see tomorrow.
Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 05, 2017, 02:48:51 am
When you boot up with a system repair disk, you are booting up outside of Windows and while you would get the same options through Settings/Recovery, the repair disk should have everything on it or you to use the image to restore with - at least that is my understanding.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 05, 2017, 03:45:30 am
I was going through a Wordpad Doc. looking for something else where I store useful URLs and came across the following for resolving File Association problems.

I've had it a while so not sure if it will also serve Win 10, but you could create a restore point first or use Windows Repair program to do a registry back up.

I'm not sure why you need to run Notepad as an admin though.

Re: this file does not have a program associated with it for performing this act
Your problem relates to file associations. If you go to all programs accessories and right click on notepad select "run as administrator" it should open.

Copy all below into notepad then in notepad menu select "File" then "save as" in the box make sure "all files" is selected(drop down) and call it Exe.reg save to desktop. Locate the file and double click it, agree to add to registry. Restart computer. (this returns to defaults and is perfectly safe)

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.exe]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.exe]
@="exefile"
"Content Type"="application/x-msdownload"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.exe\PersistentHandler]
@="{098f2470-bae0-11cd-b579-08002b30bfeb}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile]
@="Application"
"EditFlags"=hex:38,07,00,00
"FriendlyTypeName"=hex(2):40,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,\
  00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,\
  32,00,5c,00,73,00,68,00,65,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
  00,2c,00,2d,00,31,00,30,00,31,00,35,00,36,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\DefaultIcon]
@="%1"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open]
"EditFlags"=hex:00,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command]
@="\"%1\" %*"
"IsolatedCommand"="\"%1\" %*"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas]
"HasLUAShield"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas\command]
@="\"%1\" %*"
"IsolatedCommand"="\"%1\" %*"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runasuser]
@="@shell32.dll,-50944"
"Extended"=""
"SuppressionPolicyEx"="{F211AA05-D4DF-4370-A2A0-9F19C09756A7}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runasuser\command]
"DelegateExecute"="{ea72d00e-4960-42fa-ba92-7792a7944c1d}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers]
@="Compatibility"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\ContextMenuHandlers\Compatibility]
@="{1d27f844-3a1f-4410-85ac-14651078412d}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\DropHandler]
@="{86C86720-42A0-1069-A2E8-08002B30309D}"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\.exe]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\.exe]
"FullDetails"="prop:System.PropGroup.Description;System.FileDescription;System.ItemTypeText;System.FileVersion;System.Software.ProductName;System.Software.ProductVersion;System.Copyright;*System.Category;*System.Comment;System.Size;System.DateModified;System.Language;*System.Trademarks;*System.OriginalFileName"
"InfoTip"="prop:System.FileDescription;System.Company;System.FileVersion;System.DateCreated;System.Size"
"TileInfo"="prop:System.FileDescription;System.Company;System.FileVersion;System.DateCreated;System.Size"

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.exe]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.exe]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.exe\OpenWithList]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.exe\OpenWithProgids]
"exefile"=hex(0):

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.exe]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.exe]
@="exefile"
"Content Type"="application/x-msdownload"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\.exe\PersistentHandler]
@="{098f2470-bae0-11cd-b579-08002b30bfeb}"

Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 05, 2017, 09:02:46 am
When I did that I got the following message (in my translation): Exe.reg cannot be imported. Said file is not a registry database script. You can only import "binare" (?)registry database files from registry editor, -- i.e. as I understand it only in 0's or 1's.

Back to the good old drawing table again!

Brgds


Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 05, 2017, 09:19:49 am
Well at least it seems to know what is wrong, but was worth a shot.

Is the system image still on the drawing board ?

Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 06, 2017, 07:41:14 am
Well, I can't restore my C: backup (those damn .exe files not working)

Unless you can produce som miracle cure, I think I will bite the rug and reinstall the Windows 10 and start reinstalling my other programs again.
It is just  rather timeconsuming, to say the least.

Brgds and thanks for your kind assistance.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 06, 2017, 07:48:28 am
Don't have any other suggestions - it's certainly been a hair puller with not being able to use the cmd prompt.

Yours looks like the final solution - will you be using the latest ISO which includes the 1607 AU ?
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 07, 2017, 05:42:39 am
I am a bit tired of the situation. I decided to reinstall W10 and keep my files. But then I was told, I could only do this if I was logged in as admin. I am the only user and when I look in Windows it confirms that I am admin. Well, even if I had logged in with my MS-account, nevertheless then I had to give my password, which I did, - however it was doomed wrong. It is THE password which I have in my password file. So here we are, - I can't re-install bloody Windows. ... and there is no human being to get hold of in MS, why I don't know where to get help. A hacker maybe?- joke, unfortunately I don't know any.
Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 07, 2017, 08:34:50 am
You can turn off the UAC by going to All Control Panel Items - User Accounts - Change User Account Control - this could be tricky because you then have to accept the UAC.

If you get past that then slide the slider to the bottom - OK and then see what you can do.

Are you able to back up your personal stuff to do a custom install ?

It means more work, but you're at a dead end at the moment.

Have you tried using msconfig to get into Safe Mode ?

Go Start - type msconfig and press enter.

Under the Boot tab check the box for Safe boot and then the one for Network - Apply - OK then Restart.

Sometimes programs can work in Safe Mode when not in normal mode and hopefully you may be able to use the cmd  prompt admin where you don't need to accept the UAC.

If you can get to there, see if you can run a sfc /scannow
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 09, 2017, 01:33:17 am
Next chapter in a (never ending?) story.
Well I finally got in. I started reinstallation of Windows 10 with the option of keeping my private files. The pc started working, and working and working. The little wheel kept turning and turning, - untill after 20 hours I stopped it this morning. Message: roll back changes. And that is what it did. Now it works, like it did before, i.e. with all the same problems, howver, I got a service message from MS saying in my translation:"Please change your MS account in order to allow other apps to start on this unit".
Well, this was new and I logged into my MS account in order to change this, however I could not find anything which led to places where I could change anything of this kind.
Have to leave now for my dentist.
Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 09, 2017, 03:49:54 am
When I was manually updating to the August Update I would get the never ending busy wheel and I would stop and restart it until I got a message that it was trying to recover the install or something or other until I figured it was my Norton Security getting in the way.

It may be best to back up your personal stuff and select keep nothing to see if that progresses.

I don't have a MS account or do I use any of the apps so not sure about that procedure - does it want you to create a new MS account ?

BTW - Good luck at the Dentists :)
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 09, 2017, 11:21:47 am
As we say in Denmark(not very optimistic!) "a mishap seldom comes alone!
Well, it became rather expensive at the dentist http://www.tweaking.com/forums/Smileys/smillhey/undecided.png
Concerning Windows. i tried once more to reinstall. Everything went fine, it came up to 100%, it started with the (boot) menu as usual, but that's where it went wrong, as the rest never came up. Maybe I should try once more and close my Bullguard security in the meantime.
I am in the process of copying my files. I cannot back them up with my backup programme because of the damn .exe-files not working.
When and if I choose to install Windows without my files, I wonder if Windows format my C:. I have scanned the pc again today for viruses and malware, but I am afraid some harmful waste could remain on the drive.
The service message from MS was like this (my translation): Correct your MS account to apps on other units in order to start apps and continue your experiences on this PC.    It means nothing to me. When I log on my MS acccount the only thing I can see is that MS want me to syncronize with possible other units such as Xbox, phones etc.. However, I get suspicious, when I am having problems with apps and their .exe files.
well, a long song from me. Don't get bored too much. Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 09, 2017, 01:19:56 pm
In the UK when we see something we don't understand, we used to say, "It's all Greek to me" - just the same as that MS message is to me :)

Do you use any of those apps it wants you to synchronize with - haven't a clue about that either :)

You could format the drive yourself prior to the reinstall.

One good thing about Win 10 now is that it will self activate.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 09, 2017, 01:44:52 pm
I am sorry, I don't understand. If I format the C:, how can Windows or part of it remain in order that I can install it? How does self activate function?

For some odd reason, my C: is a dynamic drive, which in many ways is unpractical. When formatting, is it possible to change it to a "normal" drive? If so, how?

Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Julian on February 09, 2017, 01:53:43 pm
sticky mess changing disks almost guarantee you will lose files that are not backed up because changing disk from dynamic will wipe that whole partition clean.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 09, 2017, 01:59:22 pm
You can convert the disk to basic without losing data with this EaseUS program - http://www.partition-tool.com/resource/change-dynamic-disk-to-basic.htm

Win 10 is digitally activated and once it has been previously installed on your machine then it will pick up that fingerprint of your hardware.

However, you could just install into that partition without a format.
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 09, 2017, 02:41:27 pm
In fact I have Easeus partition Master, however I can't make that .exe file work.

It is pure luck that my Thunderbird works as well as Edge. Otherwise I couldn't have bothered you with all my problems.

When I have finished copying my files, I will try reinstall again one way or the other. In any case I will have to reinstall my programs, which is OK, because I have for a long time wanted to clean up and delete some programs.

Will keep you posted.

Brgds
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 09, 2017, 02:42:43 pm
Okay - good luck :)
Title: Re: Repair
Post by: erlingstar on February 12, 2017, 04:36:43 am
Nothing really worked for a long time. When I had given up, I inserted the W10 rescue disk once more and read a book. After about 30 minutes (!!!)it suddenly reacted, and from then on everything worked just fine. I reinstalled and updated. All my files were preserved. I only have to install my programs, which, however, is rather time consuming.

I am halfway through now and all my backed up passwords, mail and favourites are in place. Life looks good.

A lesson learned: Be very patient, when you have a rescue disc! - nothing may happen for a long time!

Brgds

Title: Re: Repair
Post by: Boggin on February 12, 2017, 07:26:23 am
That's good news and glad to see that you've finally got it sorted.