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Title: 2004 ver
Post by: Fatman Stan on May 28, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
I just went to Ver 2004-OS Build 19041.264. Are U working on a update.  Thank You  :artist:
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 28, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
I don't know if Shane has gotten that 2004 update yet - I haven't, but when he does he will update the repair program as he will need to see what has changed.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Fatman Stan on May 28, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
Thank You Tom. :artist:   2004 is working great on my system.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 29, 2020, 07:39:59 AM
Well that's good news.

How long did the update take ?

I think 1803 took about 2hrs on mine but 1909 was much quicker.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: GliderBoy on May 29, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
Update from 1909 to 2004 took about 1 hr on my ThinkPad P72.  Most of the time was in the downloading (20 mb/s internet connection, WiFi to home network).
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: GliderBoy on May 29, 2020, 08:22:13 AM
By the way, I got the update through the natural process via Windows Update on May 27, one day before it was supposed to be released generally.

The 2004 ISO is available now on Microsoft Windows 10 download site.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 29, 2020, 08:31:20 AM
Thanks - I'll wait until it comes through on Windows Update.

I normally Ethernet connect for updates to get the max of 40Mbps, although my wireless speed isn't far behind that but prevents the risk of loss of wireless connection.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Fatman Stan on May 29, 2020, 03:14:12 PM
 
 I used Windows 10 Update Assistant- Works great.

 I can download at 800+mps and 750+upload. Thanks for the replies. :artist:
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 30, 2020, 03:22:40 AM
Hmmm - In view of that, I may try the Win 10 MCT on my other machine after I've created a newer system image.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 30, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
That machine took about 2½hrs to install and then the restart prompt screen said that would take another 90mins which is currently on 12%.

I may do this one tomorrow and then create a 2004 install USB.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 30, 2020, 01:54:21 PM
Well that took a lot longer than an hour but should my screen look black like this -

Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: GliderBoy on May 31, 2020, 10:58:48 AM
I would say that no, it should not.  However, mine did (show black wallpaper, that is) immediately after the upgrade.  I simply applied the same photo that I had used as wallpaper before the upgrade.

I thought maybe it was an issue peculiar to my PC, but if others are seeing this as well, it looks like it may be a minor bug in the MS Windows upgrade process.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on May 31, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
I restored with the system image and then updated again.

This time the screen was showing as normal, so not sure what happened last time.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 01, 2020, 02:12:27 AM
Hi,
just updated to win10Pro 2004(from 1909):
i have some worries : Win seems to forget at each new session my credentials for skype , cloud providers(& at the begining all my emails in WLM2012)
very annoying .
i encounter lot of esent errors in the system events diary (i tried to reset by deleting SRUDB.dat linked  to the diagnostic provider service) : no improvment
the scanhealth and sfc /scannow command reported no errors

i did a scan for the  System Reparse Points , i have many of them 240 to be corrected,
i would like to know if its safe with WR209 v4.80 to repair them as it hasn't been yet updated for the last Win update 2004

EDIT: Explorer.exe is continously taking much cpu ressources 40%(i think linked to e-share(formerly ncryptedcloud) freezing i cant access to its parameters )
i did a check disk on all drives
 
ps: i had to change when updating win10, my login from local account to microsoft account also

thanks
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 01, 2020, 02:31:09 AM
These major updates tend to reset everything - pretty much like a repair install, but I don't know why it isn't retaining your Skype creds.

Perhaps you should report these changes to Microsoft through Feedback.

I would hold off on using the repair program until it has been updated, which I'm sure Shane will be working on now.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 01, 2020, 02:39:50 AM
These major updates tend to reset everything - pretty much like a repair install, but I don't know why it isn't retaining your Skype creds.

Perhaps you should report these changes to Microsoft through Feedback.

I would hold off on using the repair program until it has been updated, which I'm sure Shane will be working on now.
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Hi Boggin, thanls for your suggestions i will delay the repair until next update :)
best regards]
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 01, 2020, 02:52:40 AM
I've updated one machine to 2004 but haven't ran the repair program's pre-steps to see if it has affected my Reparse Points.

I don't use that machine much but I intend to update this one tomorrow through the MCT and I'll know more if there are any adverse effects.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: bgt on June 01, 2020, 05:19:08 AM
This program does not run anymore on Win10 ver.2004. Please update program. Thanx.
PS Windows 10 v2004 works flawlessly. Did 10 pc's without a hiccup:-)
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: ToraScotia on June 01, 2020, 09:12:47 AM
Installing 2004 caused a few problems on my PC, for example, some video files wouldn’t open. Couldn’t purchase the latest Cyberlink PhotoDirector upgrade, from their Website. (Checkout unavailable) and I got a message about Tweaking.com when I tried to use it. Something about insufficient files.

I used Macrium Reflect to restore my most recent snapshot backup (Created just before I downloaded and installed 2004) and normality was resumed. I can live without this Windows 10 update.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: ToraScotia on June 01, 2020, 11:37:39 AM
“Windows 10 2004: We're already looking into these 10 issues, says Microsoft.”

https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-2004-were-already-looking-into-these-10-issues-says-microsoft/
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 01, 2020, 01:34:44 PM
In view of these bugs, I think I'll wait before updating this machine and restore the other one with the system image.

Until Shane brings the repair program up to date for 2004 then it won't be compatible.

However, I'll bring this thread to Shane's attention because of the bugs, so he may want to hold off on updating the program.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: coover on June 01, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
Actually, Windows Repair 4.8.0 does work with Win 10 2004. Just ignore the error message and continue on. Apparently, MS wants a specific folder for Win 10 2004  added.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 01, 2020, 02:42:25 PM
I think I'd still advise to wait as MS tend to change Permissions which could cause problems with newer versions of Windows.

2004 may be a bit different but members have had problems running an older version of the program on latest versions of Win 10.

That went through a phase of no boot after the reboot in those cases.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Fatman Stan on June 09, 2020, 07:45:14 AM
Fixed- Thank You for the fast fix. U guys do a great job. :wink:
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 09, 2020, 07:52:59 AM
Hello,
also i used the v4.9.0 , suitable for win10 2004 , and fixed some windows permissions and the 230! sytem reparse points scanned as missing/wrong , and no worries so far
thanks
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 09, 2020, 01:39:43 PM
Hello,
also i used the v4.9.0 , suitable for win10 2004 , and fixed some windows permissions and the 230! sytem reparse points scanned as missing/wrong , and no worries so far
thanks

Glad that sorted things out for you but given the bugs reported in 2004 I think I'll wait for the next release from MS.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 01:20:05 AM
I got the update through Windows Update, but the following day the laptop began freezing.

I tried a number of things before finally using the system image I'd created beforehand to restore back to 1909.

On Googling, it suggests that this freezing could be because of outdated drivers and to update them in Safe Mode with Networking but if the machine is frozen, then that wouldn't be possible.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 02:05:23 AM
There is an alternative way to access the Start-up Settings other than pressing and holding the SHIFT button throughout a Restart and that is to power shutdown, switch on then power shutdown when the Win 10 logo comes up.

Quickly do this a second time and then allow the machine to start on the third switch on.

This will go through diagnostic procedures and end with a warning that the machine didn't start properly.

You can ignore this as it's probably related to the repeated shutdowns.

Clicking on Advanced, you will then be able to select Troubleshoot/Advanced options to select Start-up Settings and eventually press F5 for Safe Mode with Networking.

However, in my Googling for a solution to the freezes, there was no mention of this method and I think many people would be unaware of this alternative method.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 13, 2020, 05:42:14 AM
I got the update through Windows Update, but the following day the laptop began freezing.

I tried a number of things before finally using the system image I'd created beforehand to restore back to 1909.

On Googling, it suggests that this freezing could be because of outdated drivers and to update them in Safe Mode with Networking but if the machine is frozen, then that wouldn't be possible.
Hi, saw somewhere but couldnt remember where, that Hewlett Packard has released a specific patch for their laptops with installation prior to the Update to Win10 2004 , as there were many laptops from their brand stuck with latest microsoft update

ps : from my side i had, constant refresh loop in explorer.exe folders and desktop icons every 10s :  So i remove most of "none-microsoft" ShellExt (context right click menu ) and had to uninstall E-Share(ncryptedcloud)
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 06:07:25 AM
Well I read that MS were going to hold off releasing the update to Intel based machines with integral graphics which this Toshiba has.

Apparently 2004 also had problems with Nvidia graphics - again.

As I got the update through Windows Update, I assumed they had ironed out the bugs.

I only have one driver that updated and that is for my Realtek wireless adapter.

The thing is, is that it installs one dated 31 March 2016 and when I check that on InSSIDer3 the graph looks like a broken saw blade, so I stick with a one from April 2013 which was my Win 7 driver and is more stable.

I don't know if that driver was the cause of the machine freezing, but I'm quite happy with 1909.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 13, 2020, 06:16:03 AM
Probablely, for laptops integrated CPUs, audio and GPU drivers are doing the glitches, i have a desktop with intel processor I7(4th gen), Asus Z87Pro Mb with intel gpu +realtek   integrated but i have a nvidia graphic card , so i guess i avoided most of the worries (and if could remember well i gave up realtek audio updates , and used the microsoft ones(new certification for drivers, prior to win1809)
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 06:17:37 AM
I've always stuck with Realtek audio drivers.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 13, 2020, 06:21:59 AM
I've always stuck with Realtek audio drivers.
i've just attached my current audio drivers picture( previous post)
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 06:28:24 AM
I checked Device Manager for an update but it said the latest one was already installed, even though it's dated 2011 which is when the machine was bought.

Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 13, 2020, 07:01:40 AM
I checked Device Manager for an update but it said the latest one was already installed, even though it's dated 2011 which is when the machine was bought.
I think i desactivated the onboard(MB Asus Z87Pro ) Realtek integrated audio/Drivers when they were not anymore so often updated( perhaps in 2019)
when the Microsoft Drivers had to be WHQL certified to run on fresh install of win10 (by Windows Hardware Developer Center Dashboard ) had been put in place by Microsoft in a purpose to avoid interences between old/not often updated corrupting the kernel
that kind of worries(french version) : https://support.microsoft.com/fr-fr/help/4529832/updating-to-windows-10-version-1903-on-devices-with-some-driver-versio
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 07:11:53 AM
This machine while being updated from Win 7 has worked well on Win 10 until this latest update.

When I earlier updated through the MCT I don't think I had any problems but didn't have it on long enough to find out before I restored back to 1909 because of the reported bugs.

This didn't start freezing until the day after, so I don't know what brought that on.

It seemed to resolve for a while after I performed a Start-up Repair but it started to freeze again, even though I had time to run the Windows Memory Diagnostic on both RAM sticks separately.
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Sonivani on June 13, 2020, 07:27:03 AM
ok good luck with your investigations i also made many ram/disks tests , removed most of unsuitable startup softwares , it has been running quite well since like version 1809 with was the best from my side
Title: Re: 2004 ver
Post by: Boggin on June 13, 2020, 01:37:07 PM
I think I'll leave any investigations until I install it again, but it hasn't appeared in updates yet.