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Main Forum => Tweaking.com Support & Help => Topic started by: Bubba Euler on February 19, 2013, 01:45:09 pm
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Shane, I was anxious to try the new Windows Repair Beta section. I thought it was :confused: OK for a while. I watched Resource Monitor PID 4 and saw it start to eat up the HDD time-wise: near 100% nearly all the time. I think it stange that the list in the bottom section in Res Mon shows many / multiple Volume System Information files being read both Background and Normal at the same time. Hmmm? I wish I could figure out what's going on in there. Ha!!!
:confused:
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Make sure to post in the right section bud :-)
There is something messed up with your system restore that is for sure. The repair right now is just aimed at getting restore working. Have you tried to see how it does if you run it windows in safe mode for a while?
Shane
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I haven't yet, but I will do it today after I get my work done. I do enjoy troubleshooting. I learn so much about my computer and get satisfaction from a successful tweak!
Thanks.
Bubba Jack
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Make sure to post in the right section bud :-)
There is something messed up with your system restore that is for sure. The repair right now is just aimed at getting restore working. Have you tried to see how it does if you run it windows in safe mode for a while?
Shane
Started in Safe Mode: System Restore worked normally!?! The Resmon.exe showed 0 to 10% from PID 4 at random intervals. The list showed only ONE Volume System Information file (except initially when there were three total, the other two with lesser access went away and never returned while I monitored it).
Hope this helps you determine how System Restore works internally.
Bubba Jack
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Safe mode has less services and almost no programs running.
So now the question is, is it a service or program that is causing the problem?
When back in normal mode is it the same pid on each instance or is there a different PID?
Shane
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Same PID (4) in all cases: Normal/Background/SafeMode/all Volume System Information files. Again, in Safe Mode, only one VSI is running and is accessed rarely by the System.
Bubba Jack
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Go to your users folder and right click on desktop and choose properties. Click the previous versions tab. Is it empty?
Shane
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Desktop previous versions is empty. There are two Desktop files: one under Administrator and the other under the name of the Computer, both of which are administrators.
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OPen cmd.exe and put this in
vssadmin list shadows
Let me know what it shows :-)
Shane
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"No items found that satisfy the query.". Oh! System Restore is off, right now.
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I have found countless pages about the PID 4 process thrashing the drive and seems to be some bug in Windows with something else.
Have you tried disabling your antivirus with system restore on?
Shane
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Nope, but I'll do it, right now! I use the IObit's ASC Ultimate 6 (Pro) as A/V scanner.
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Turned off A/V and Set a Restore Point. ResMon.exe shows 10 - 12 SVI files, all but one of which are Normal I/O Priority. Disk access is 95 to 100%. SVI is almost always the top Write (B/s) file. Otherwise, Pagefile.sys is the winner.
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I'm also noticing an aprox. 50 second period of normal disk activity using Speedometer. During the last ~10 seconds, the HDD R/W goes upwards to between 9 and 11 MB/s. This corresponds with what I see on the ResMon.
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Really at a loss at this one bud. Without getting my hand son it I dont know why system restore is doing that.
Shane
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It may be as "simple" as re-installing Window$ 7 x 64. Ha! I'll keep trying different things and searching the net for potential solutions. If and/or when I find "it", I'll definately notify you. Thanks for your concern and assistance to me. EVERYTIME I ask you for help, I learn something new and enlightening. And, I know how desireous you are to help all of us! God bless you and your family, Shane!
Bubba Jack
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I am always here to help :-)
Shane
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Addendum: I downloaded the newest Windows Repair Portable and ran the Beta System Restore again. I carefully watched Resmon.exe after running the Beta. Very quickly, the PID 4 filled-up with multiple System Information files, into the middle teens, if not twenties. The vast number of them and their changing position made exact numbering difficult/impossible. Only two were being written-to, at any one time. Some of them were being read concurrently. I hope this bit of additional information helps in the decoding and solution to this weird Windows 7 anomoly.
Bubba Jack
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Thanks. So far I havent had a single person report that the beta repair has helped. At the same time I have only had a hand full of people respond anyways lol
Shane
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I found an old SystemRestoreRepair utility here:
http://www.utilitypc.biz/download_08/SystemRestoreRepair/sysrestorepair-1_1.zip
Anyway, be careful, because according to the release notes it seems to work only for windows XP.
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Yeah the system restore in XP is totally different than in vista and 7. In XP there is an inf file that installs system restore, with it I could trace everything it needs. IN the new versions they changed how system restore works, and from what I can tell system restore requires a number of other services and settings. The hard part is finding all that it needs.
Shane