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Reset all Windows services to default
« on: October 18, 2011, 09:49:15 AM »
Hey Shane,

I know we have been emailing about this but, was curious to hear what other peeps might think of a fix to reset all windows services to default.  Any thoughts anyone?

Rusty  :smiley:

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2011, 10:59:51 AM »
I can add a repair to set all the services to their default startups.

I would need to look at each version of windows at the reg keys for each Microsoft service and see what is different and if they change between service packs at all. If they all stay the same then I think I can safely have the repair put the default reg keys for each service. That could help fix a lot of broken services.

But it needs to be tested well. :wink:

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2011, 02:10:13 PM »
I have a Windows 7 machine that is soley used for testing purposes.  So if you want Shane, feel free to contact me about any testing that you need done.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 03:06:09 PM »
Sure will. :wink:

First step is to get every version of windows installed fresh in vmware. grab all the Microsoft only services. SO I will need to do every OS since 2000.

I need to get my hands on 2008, only one I don't have. Only need it for this, maybe MS has a trial of it.

Then once I have all the reg keys I need to compare them, find out what is different and get the repair made and have the keys be added based on the OS the user is on.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 06:57:33 AM »
Interesting suggestion/discussion.

I have a suggestion/thought as well, regarding Window Services. Perhaps you could let WR make a copy of all the existing window services and store them in a separate file (*.reg ?, *.txt ?). Then one has a copy of the Services that work and can be restored as well. Then one doesn't need to restore the entire/large parts of the registry after a virus has tampered with the services. Or is that part of the registry protected in one way or the other ?

Perhaps restoring ALL services back to their default settings is - at this moment - a number of steps too far.

I didn't know the services were stored in the registry. I use the build-in Windows System Restore Point feature hardly anymore since I installed a program called ""ERUNT"" and ""ERUNTgui"" to automatically make a copy of parts of the registry at computer start up. And I can tell you, it has saved my computer bacon at least (!!) 15 times. (Among others, from several BSODs !!).
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/erunt.html
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Registry-Tweak/ERUNTgui.shtml

I would recommend to visit the website of a guy called ""Black Viper"". He has - IMO - good info on what Microsoft services are available in the different Operating Systems.
http://www.blackviper.com/
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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 09:24:41 AM »
First step I could do is just make a new repair that simply sets all the services back to their default start up state. (Disabled, auto and manual)

And look over the reg keys more later on.

Honestly the reg keys worries me a little. One mess up on the wrong service and the whole system is down. Makes me wonder if the reg keys is a good idea at all.

But the start up info for the services is safe. I can look up the defaults on black viper.

What do you guys think? make this repair for the next update?

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 03:59:07 PM »
I didn't have the time to respond inmediately. It gave me time as well, to think it over and come up with a more mature, balanced reply.

Setting services back to their default (or safe) values is certainly a good idea. (see the discussion on the Piriform forum as well).
http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=34060

About the reg keys: One of the steps in WR is to create a System Restore Point (SRP). So, one captures the previous state of (important parts of) the registry. This clearly suggests that WR does change/repair some/a significant amount/a lot of keys in the registry. And I frankly haven't got a clue which ones and how many. I am NOT a computer tech guy although I don't consider myself to be a know-nothing computer user either. I regularly manually clean the registry. Too many programs don't remove all info from the registry. I have learned what I can (manually) clean and what not.

So, perhaps it's a good idea to enable (e.g. with an extra button) the user to create another SRP after WR has finished the repair/restore jobs. Then the user has (hopefully) a working/better functioning computer and then perhaps user wants to capture that stable state as well. Or if you don't like that then display a message that it would be recommended to (manually) make an additional SRP.

You're right. Saving/playing with the registry keys that control the Window Services is perhaps ""playing with fire"" too much, especially for know-nothing computer users.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 05:53:11 PM »
Yeah I already decided reg keys are not going to happen.

Right now the program doesn't change any reg keys. They keys that do get changed are the ones from registering files. And of course reg key permissions.

Looks like I am looking at over 200+ services to go through. So this repair might be a little while.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2011, 02:38:14 PM »
I'm starting to feel like I shouldn't have even come up with the suggestion in the first place.  :rolleyes:  Just like all of the fixes in WR, people don't have to use them.  No one is holding a gun to their heads and making them use any of the fixes in WR.  If someone does not feel comfortable with this Windows Services fix or any other fix for that matter, then don't tick the box!  Jeeeeezz!  Is that so hard?  This is being analyzed to death on the Piriform forum - it's just a fix!  Don't like it?  Don't use it!  :omg:

By the way, no matter what anyone says, I know this Windows Services fix would be useful and would be an asset to Windows Repair.

And another thing.  No one is "playing" with reg keys.  This fix should have the reg keys set to default for all Microsoft Services.  Would be extremely useful for those who get severely infected.  I see MS Services all screwed up all the time due to viruses.
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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 02:47:47 PM »
I'm starting to feel like I shouldn't have even come up with the suggestion in the first place.  :rolleyes:  Just like all of the fixes in WR, people don't have to use them.  No one is holding a gun to their heads and making them use any of the fixes in WR.  If someone does not feel comfortable with this Windows Services fix or any other fix for that matter, then don't tick the box!  Jeeeeezz!  Is that so hard?  This is being analyzed to death on the Piriform forum - it's just a fix!  Don't like it?  Don't use it!  :omg:

By the way, no matter what anyone says, I know this Windows Services fix would be useful and would be an asset to Windows Repair.

I feel the same way. It is going ot be a safe repair. So I will add it.

You would be shocked at how many non techs use my WR, dont read a single thing, and then complain it didnt fix something or changed something. Then give WR a bad review.

GGRRR.

But the repair is helpful for my fellow techs. So I will add it. :wink:

And yes, i will get complaints and likes for it lol

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 01:55:54 AM »
It is 2 am and my head may explode lol

But I have it done :-)

Using black vipers site I went through all the services for xp, vista, 7, 2008 & 8

194 services in total for the new repair :-)

Here is the nice thing as well, I am not touching the registry. Instead I am using the "sc config" command in a cmd window. This way if a service isn't on the system it will simply bypass it and move on. If I had used the registry instead a lot of bad things could of happened. So this is a nice safe way.

I will have the windows repair v1.5.0 out soon. Just going to test this a bit :-)

Also I removed only a few services from the repair, only because they where different on each Windows OS, what is nice is almost all the rest of the services are set the same on each OS. (Thank goodness)

Here is the current list of services it will set.

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AeLookupSvc = demand
Alerter = disabled
ALG = demand
AllUserInstallAgent = demand
AppHostSvc = auto
AppIDSvc = demand
Appinfo = demand
AppMgmt = demand
aspnet_state = demand
AudioEndpointBuilder = auto
AudioSrv = auto
AxInstSV = demand
BDESVC = demand
BFE = auto
BITS = auto
bthserv = demand
CertPropSvc = demand
ClipSrv = disabled
COMSysApp = demand
CryptSvc = auto
CscService = auto
DcomLaunch = auto
defragsvc = demand
DeviceAssociationService = demand
DeviceInstall = demand
DFSR = demand
Dhcp = auto
dmadmin = demand
dmserver = auto
Dnscache = auto
Dot3svc = demand
DPS = auto
DsmSVC = demand
DsRoleSvc = demand
EapHost = demand
EFS = demand
ehRecvr = demand
ehSched = demand
EMDMgmt = auto
ERSvc = auto
EventLog = auto
EventSystem = auto
FastUserSwitchingCompatibility = demand
Fax = demand
FCRegSvc = demand
fdPHost = demand
fhsvc = demand
FontCache = auto
FontCache3.0.0.0 = demand
gpsvc = auto
helpsvc = auto
hidserv = demand
hkmsvc = demand
HomeGroupListener = demand
HTTPFilter = demand
idsvc = demand
IKEEXT = demand
ImapiService = demand
IPBusEnum = demand
iphlpsvc = auto
KeyIso = demand
KtmRm = demand
LanmanServer = auto
LanmanWorkstation = auto
lltdsvc = demand
lmhosts = auto
LPDSVC = auto
LSM = auto
Mcx2Svc = disabled
Messenger = disabled
MMCSS = auto
mnmsrvc = demand
MpsSvc = auto
MSDTC = demand
MSiSCSI = demand
msiserver = demand
napagent = demand
NetDDE = disabled
NetDDEdsdm = disabled
Netlogon = demand
Netman = demand
NetMsmqActivator = auto
NetPipeActivator = auto
netprofm = demand
NetTcpActivator = auto
NetTcpPortSharing = disabled
Nla = demand
NlaSvc = auto
nsi = auto
NtLmSsp = demand
NtmsSvc = demand
p2pimsvc = demand
p2psvc = demand
PeerDistSvc = demand
PerfHost = demand
pla = demand
PlugPlay = auto
PNRPAutoReg = demand
PNRPsvc = demand
Power = auto
ProfSvc = auto
QWAVE = demand
RasAuto = demand
RasMan = demand
RDSessMgr = demand
RemoteAccess = disabled
RpcEptMapper = auto
RpcLocator = demand
RpcSs = auto
RSoPProv = demand
RSVP = demand
sacsvr = demand
SamSs = auto
SCardSvr = demand
Schedule = auto
SCPolicySvc = demand
SDRSVC = demand
SENS = auto
SensrSvc = demand
SessionEnv = demand
ShellHWDetection = auto
simptcp = auto
slsvc = auto
SLUINotify = demand
SNMP = auto
SNMPTRAP = demand
Spooler = auto
sppsvc = auto
sppuinotify = demand
srservice = auto
SSDPSRV = demand
SstpSvc = demand
stisvc = demand
StorSvc = demand
svsvc = demand
swprv = demand
SysMain = auto
SysmonLog = demand
SystemEventsBroker = demand
TabletInputService = demand
TapiSrv = demand
TBS = demand
TermService = demand
Themes = auto
THREADORDER = demand
TimeBroker = demand
TlntSvr = disabled
TrkWks = auto
TrustedInstaller = demand
UI0Detect = demand
UmRdpService = demand
upnphost = demand
UPS = demand
UxSms = auto
VaultSvc = demand
vds = demand
vmickvpexchange = auto
VSS = demand
W32Time = demand
W3SVC = auto
WAS = demand
wbengine = demand
WbioSrvc = demand
Wcmsvc = demand
wcncsvc = demand
WcsPlugInService = demand
WdiServiceHost = demand
WdiSystemHost = demand
WdNisSvc = demand
WebClient = demand
Wecsvc = demand
wercplsupport = demand
WerSvc = demand
WiaRpc = demand
WinDefend = auto
WinHttpAutoProxySvc = demand
Winmgmt = auto
Wlansvc = demand
wlidsvc = demand
WmdmPmSN = demand
Wmi = demand
wmiApSrv = demand
WMPNetworkSvc = demand
WMSvc = demand
WPCSvc = demand
WPDBusEnum = demand
wscsvc = auto
Wsearch = auto
WSService = demand
wuauserv = auto
wudfsvc = auto
WwanSvc = demand
WZCSVC = auto
xmlprov = demand

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 02:19:54 AM »
Here is v1.5.0 if you want to try it out before I release it :wink:

I am off to bed. Night!

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2011, 09:11:52 AM »
I tried the program (I only ticked the box ""Windows services ........... "") and came across one small thing. When I restarted my laptop the system reported (system tray icon) that new hardware was (supposedly) detected. But the hardware brandname wasn't familiar to me. This never happened to me before and I hadn't change the (network-)hardware.

Franlky, I don't know how to test the services part. Haven't got a clue which services can be tinkered with, without crashing the system.

In the MS-DOS windows (cmd.exe) (in Windows XP) there came a number of messages something along the lines of: ""Service not installed"". Perhaps later more experiences.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2011, 10:17:07 AM »
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I tried the program (I only ticked the box ""Windows services ........... "") and came across one small thing. When I restarted my laptop the system reported (system tray icon) that new hardware was (supposedly) detected. But the hardware brandname wasn't familiar to me. This never happened to me before and I hadn't change the (network-)hardware.

This actually sounds like a good thing. One of the services is the Windows plug and play that detects new hardware. If it is disabled the system wont auto find no installed hardware. Sounds like yours was disabled and got put back to enabled and thus found some thing.

What hardware did it say it found?

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Franlky, I don't know how to test the services part. Haven't got a clue which services can be tinkered with, without crashing the system.

Thats just it, if you can run it and your fine then it was a good test.

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In the MS-DOS windows (cmd.exe) (in Windows XP) there came a number of messages something along the lines of: ""Service not installed"". Perhaps later more experiences.

This is expected. I have all the services together. And the great thing about using the sc config command and not the reg. If a service isnt on the system it says not installed and moves on. Nice and safe :-)

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2011, 10:24:54 AM »
Hey Shane,

Just tested the services repair on Win7 Pro 32bit and all is well.  :smiley:

Great addition!

Thanks,
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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 11:06:53 AM »
1. your reply reminded me of something I found puzzling. Several times I would go to the Microsoft update website and then it recommended to install an update for the network software. I let the website install the software and the next time/from time to time the website would recommened to install the same software again. Same ""plug and play"" service ?
2. I can't recall. It was along the lines of ""Allied data ......."" and I thought (I am not sure) it was concerning the Network (Ethernet connection to the ADSL modem). Or was it related to the ADSL modem itself ? Although I haven't seen any change in behaviour of the Ethernet connection. Perhaps I need to do some extra research. So, please don't reply before I have tried to replicate this weird thing.

3. Now we're talking services: I have a problem with ""Automatic updates"" (AU) in combination with the Task scheduler. Task scheduler says that it can't (be) start(ed). I am wondering why because AU is set to Automatic. And when I set AU to Manual then visiting the Microsoft update website causes an error. ""Automatic Updates needs to set to Automatic"". Weird,  I thought that Manual meant that only when required by Task Scheduler or the user (like visiting the update website) the service should become active.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2011, 11:31:53 AM »
Did some tinkering (Plug & play service) and windows reported that the system had become instable. Thanks to WR I was able to reset the services to their safe settings. So, - most definitely - WR is/has become a useful tool to put Windows back to a safe/stable footing. Thumbs up for WR !!!

But I wasn't able to replicate the system message. Perhaps it will show up at some later stage. We'll have to wait and see. And I am NOT going to do more research. Much too dangerous. Lesson learned.

The MSDOS (cmd.exe) message was actually the dutch equivalent of ""this service hasn't been installed"".
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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2011, 11:34:13 AM »
Starting to look like this repair was a good idea to add :-)

Since so far everything is looking good I will put out the new version tomorrow.

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 11:34:56 AM »
Oh and Willy, if you would post on the piri forum and let them know the new repair did help you lol

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2011, 12:56:58 PM »
Starting to look like this repair was a good idea to add :-)

I agree 100%!  :smiley:

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2011, 07:09:31 PM »
1. WindowsRepair puts the Windows services back to their safe/default state. But when users don't like that one or more services are changed to the default state then they always can (manually) put one or more services back the user's preferred state. And that's where the System Information Tool of TWEAKING.com can play a vital role. A user can run the program BEFORE he/she runs Windows Repair and record in what state one or more services are in. And there's a MS-DOS command available that can put a service (back) in a desired state. The user even can put a number of commands together in a batch file too. This enables the user to put those services back to their preferred state with ONE mouse click after running WR. IMO, problem solved !!!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb490995.aspx

2. I know there're systemvariables that can be used to, among others, to identify the operating system (XP, Vista or windows 7). Can these variables be used in e.g. the Windows Service section of WindowsRepair ? Because when I read a previous post correctly, it seems that the default state of one or more services are dependent on the type of OS.
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Environment_variable
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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2011, 04:08:33 PM »
Hey Shane,

I know we have been emailing about this but, was curious to hear what other peeps might think of a fix to reset all windows services to default.  Any thoughts anyone?

Rusty  :smiley:

Think this would be really good,, I am having a few issues,, 1) cannot get SP1 to install regardless of what I have tried,,2) cannot get windows media center to work either on windows 7,, tried installing and re-installing and 20 other things I must of found on the net to try,, just keeps shutting down as soon as I start it.. Does this program help with this kind of issues?

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Re: Reset all Windows services to default
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2011, 04:28:20 PM »
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Think this would be really good,, I am having a few issues,, 1) cannot get SP1 to install regardless of what I have tried,,2) cannot get windows media center to work either on windows 7,, tried installing and re-installing and 20 other things I must of found on the net to try,, just keeps shutting down as soon as I start it.. Does this program help with this kind of issues?

I have seen my repair program fix a lot of things, including not being able to install a service pack and such. A lot of times this is services not running and bad permissions. My program fixes both :-)

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