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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up[Solved]
« on: June 19, 2015, 05:08:12 am »
I don know what to say about this,coumputer boots up slowly,in about a min.Don't know the reason why it act like that .I disabled most off the programs that start at startup through msconfig utility and reduced Boot.ini timeout to 3 sec but it boots up in a minute or so.During that period the window is blank.I have no antivirus so i believe this is something about services or an adware my programs might havev missed.The reason i have no AV,if you might ask,its because it hinders speed,which i need as my device isnt a professional gamming ,more of a notebook ,so i have to do what i can do to compensate.

I applied any tweak i know for this and use many softwares but the time is still set,wont take less than a minute.

Programs Used: CCleaner,Uniblue Powesuite,Advanced System Care,Adwcleaner,Rogue Killer,Junkware Removal Tool,Hitman Pro,Malware Anti-Malware,IExplore,Tweaking.com
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2015, 05:55:02 am »
OS and basic specs would help....

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 09:23:16 am »
OS and basic specs would help....
Agreed.
 if you can provide us with what version of windows x86 or x64 that would help plus we would need to know how much ram you have hard disk space would be another good thing to know and what processor you have and how many ghz does it run.
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 09:38:46 am »
It sounds like dondon is using a Win 8/8.1 computer.

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 01:54:06 pm »
No i have a windows XP 32-bit.Other details are specified in the picture below.

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 02:05:31 pm »
My Win 7 boots up in 60 - 65 secs and I'm quite pleased with that - how long did it take normally for your XP to boot up ?

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 02:19:04 pm »
I have an old machine with XP on it, 1.2GHz Celeron and 512MB RAM (100MHz), 40GB IDE HDD, boots to a working desktop in 30 seconds, so it can be done. I only have my AV running at start up. Uneeded services and hardware disabled.

Post a list of your start up items.

Also take a look at Shane's two programs. both are of benefit to machines with low resources.

http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem

http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/simple_system_tweaker.html
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2015, 01:49:12 am »
Tried the tools you provided.No results.

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2015, 02:14:24 am »
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/step-by-step-use-bootvis-to-improve-xp-boot-performance/5034622/
 Please use the bootvis according to the instruction in the  above link.
Download the bootvis from this link first:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/bootvis.html
If you find any improvement , please tell
After this, use shanes simple tweak program to improve further the boot.

The Bottom line is "Check your hardware first if it supports the task you try".

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2015, 03:51:04 am »
Tried the tools you provided.No results.

Still waiting for a list of what programs you have running at start up......

I disabled most off the programs that start at startup through msconfig utility

Any auto updaters? Google, Adobe, MS etc....
Is quick/ fast boot enabled in your BIOS?
Is your HDD set as the first boot device?
Disabling unused hardware, such as unused ports can help too.
The aggregation of marginal gains and all that.

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2015, 03:55:38 am »
Can you do a
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chkdsk c: and post the results?
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2015, 05:12:29 am »
Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about

 

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2015, 05:13:31 am »
Sorry for x2 reply but cant post 2 images in the same post apparently

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2015, 05:44:46 am »
Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about

Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/

Also yahoo messenger, do you really need that at start up?

Greenshot.exe ( a screen shotter, yes?) does n't need to run at start up.

You could always use MS Zero config utility instead of the intel software for your wifi, your choice.

WLTRAY.exe, again your choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/WLTRAY.exe-18787.html

So ther's a few things that you could trim out (personally I would/ do) up to you. YMMV.

If you do try them one at a time, see how it goes  :wink:

Create a restore point/ reg backup in case.

But on the list that you've got, your 60 seconds is about right.

PS Your lack of AV is a concern, with those specs you can run AV no problem.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2015, 06:23:44 am by Samson, Reason: Added comment RE:AV »

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2015, 07:17:39 am »
Here is the list of programs you requested.None of them do take much resources.And btw,my chkdsk /f is malfunctional,Shane knows what im talking about

Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/

Also yahoo messenger, do you really need that at start up?

Greenshot.exe ( a screen shotter, yes?) does n't need to run at start up.

You could always use MS Zero config utility instead of the intel software for your wifi, your choice.

WLTRAY.exe, again your choice.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/WLTRAY.exe-18787.html

So ther's a few things that you could trim out (personally I would/ do) up to you. YMMV.

If you do try them one at a time, see how it goes  :wink:

Create a restore point/ reg backup in case.

But on the list that you've got, your 60 seconds is about right.

PS Your lack of AV is a concern, with those specs you can run AV no problem.

Ok,i googled up the existing services and searched their specific location in my device

Apoint => service will toggle touchpad when mouse present or not,helpful in case mouse fails and when you are typing and your hand goes over touchpad [Keep]

iFrmewrk =>thats intel WiFi tray icon,not very usefull but i still want to know wheter my Internet dropped or not[Keep/Discard]

Zcfgsvc =>thats Intel Wireless Auto-connect/recconnect if connection dropped,[Keep]

Stsystra => Sigmatel Sound drivevr,[Keep]

GreenShot =>Fast Save print screen directly on filles,Full screen or window,[Keep]

Other new info i discovered using provided software:
-C:\ drive 63% fragmented,doing a defrag right now
-Boot vis found that services and applications take 37 s to load,report provided in attachments

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2015, 09:30:42 am »
So you have decided what to keep (bear in mind that they all steal seconds off your boot time).

But what about the other things?

Is quick/ fast boot enabled in your BIOS?
Is your HDD set as the first boot device?
Disabling unused hardware, such as unused ports can help too.
The aggregation of marginal gains and all that.


And.

Disable ctfmon.exe
See 2a here...
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-ctfmonexe-and-why-is-it-running/

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2015, 12:40:16 pm »
Sorry my first report through Bootvis wasn't uploaded as it may have excedeed max size allowed,having over 100mb,therefore ill post a printscreen of it

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2015, 01:48:55 pm »
As a comparison here is mine for a 1.2GHz Celeron with 512MB RAM (100MHz), 40GB IDE HDD, a real dinosaur of a machine, but you can see how quickly it boots with uneeded services and hardware disabled, faster than I thought, less than 24 seconds  :wink:

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2015, 01:06:31 am »
I disabled all start up items,startup speed improvment,0.07s,report attached to the post

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2015, 03:07:28 am »
Run chkdsk c: /r on the system to check for bad sectors on the HDD.

I am unsure why there is no "Prefetching" listed on your report.
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2015, 01:43:49 pm »
Tried that chkdsk in my already malufunctional chkdsk,Bad idea.BSOD on all attempts to boot,Start Windows Normally,Last Know Good Configuration,All Safe modes.I was lucky as i had Hirens Boot CD on usb and Junkware Removal Tool,restored all the registry to 26.05.2015.Regedit wont help you while in minixp,JRT reg backup works on dos and restores registry to the correct path,not xp mini,you need both of them.This restore optimize my pc speed a bit and now is down to 40.Pretty good if i had any AV running but i dont.10 s to under ?

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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2015, 02:08:50 pm »
I have just read your other thread, did n't know that you had previous problems with chkdsk before. Good that you had a backup  :wink: (JRT uses Shane's reg backup).

I am not sure what this says about the health of your HDD, especially as chkdsk c: showed "Errors found".

I am still curious as to why you have no "Prefetching" listed in your Bootvis report, have you disabled prefetching, or has it been disabled by another program that you mentioned in your first post?


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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up[Solved]
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2015, 05:47:49 pm »
Now works pretty fine since that DOS retore.Registry was at fault and my softwares couldn't detect it.Guess Backing up yourself in 2 forms(*.reg and *.file) once you fully installed OS and Drivers then just keep it forever instead of hundrets of softwares claiming to repair registry.Well i still wanna google up all services running on my OS,to give a little more boost.Thx for all help.
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2015, 02:37:53 am »
Good to hear that you are sorted.

After a clean install, updates and programs loaded, I take a drive image. Then if ever disaster strikes I've got a known good start point to go back to. It saves time and I can be back up and running in minutes rather than hours. I also make regular disk images and registry backups, and keep the installers for all the programs that I use.

Prgrams that claim to fix/ repair/ clean your registry are generally thought of as snake oil, and cause more problems than actually helping.

Shane's registry back up is here...
http://www.tweaking.com/content/page/registry_backup.html

Black Viper's guide for services is a valuable resource.
http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-xp-x86-32-bit-service-pack-3-service-configurations/

I guess that you can mark the thread as "Solved" in the title.
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Re: Computer Slow Boot Up
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2015, 03:40:46 am »
I think you should disable some startup program and your computer will start faster, smoothly.