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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2013, 10:35:14 AM »
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Hi there  :smiley:
Ok so I'm using your great program and glad to see your trying to fix the system restore
I have been having problems with this dam thing now for weeks and Microsoft is not at all concerned if it works
I'm currently using a program called RollbackRx because system restore is so unreliable
I have tried using your beta fix but it's no good it just will not work
if I use RollbackrRX and go back lets say a week or so The system restore will work
then within a day or so I try to do a system restore and it's knackered again any ideas ?
as I said earlier I tried your beta repair but it just won't fix it
and I know for a fact there are at least 6 restore points there I made from yesterday when it was working
I booted puter this morning and the system restore isn't working again (it says no restore points have been created etc)
I will  try to work with you by answering any questions you have in tryin to get your program to fix it
cheers
T

I am still trying to trace down that reg keys and files the system restore needs.

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After running windows repair v1.9.1 I desoent solve my problem is
error occurred while lanunching the setup
The Remte procedure call failed

How  can I solve the problem?

Is this with the system restore in Windows?

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2013, 09:21:17 AM »
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Hi there
I have tried using your beta fix but it's no good it just will not work
I will  try to work with you by answering any questions you have in tryin to get your program to fix it
cheers
T

Hi there
Just updated to Tweaking version 1.9.18
Sadly Beta System Restore is still Not doing the repair
any questions ask and I'll reply with any info you require
cheers keep up your great work
T

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2013, 11:29:26 AM »
I still haven't been able to find any more information what so ever on what System Restore needs. But I have confirmed that system restore is different on each version of Windows. Every version of Windows they have changed System restore and what it needs and uses. But MS wont list any information about it.

Normally any errors int he event viewer have very little info in them on why it had trouble. Do you have any errors in the event viewer?

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2013, 08:47:00 AM »
Normally any errors int he event viewer have very little info in them on why it had trouble. Do you have any errors in the event viewer?
Shane
Hi Shane
Just looked and oh dear looks like there's a lot
I'm surprised too because Iv'e only had this Win7 Dell Vostro putor a few months ?
erm it shows 5,681 here's a small screenshot



Net Framework 4 has never installed properly no matter what I try
perhaps this is causing the problem ?
also the kernal thingy shows up many times as well as volmgr
Code: [Select]
Log Name:      System
Source:        volmgr
Date:          27/04/2013 14:51:25
Event ID:      45
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      Vostro
Description:
The system could not sucessfully load the crash dump driver.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="volmgr" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49156">45</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-04-27T13:51:25.580814200Z" />
    <EventRecordID>4614</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Vostro</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>\Device\HarddiskVolume3</Data>
    <Binary>0000000001000000000000002D0004C003200000020000C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
  </EventData>
</Event>

would it help if I gave you a full logfile ? if yes how do I do that ?
cheers
T


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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2013, 01:55:38 AM »
The only way to get .net working again is to fully remove it and reinstall it.

This tool will do the removing for you :-)

Do that, reboot and then install .net again.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2013, 07:41:53 AM »
The only way to get .net working again is to fully remove it and reinstall it.

This tool will do the removing for you :-)

Do that, reboot and then install .net again.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx

Shane
Yep that did the trick followed your instructions great job !
just wish we could get your Beta Restore to do the same now  :thinking:
cheers Shane keep up your great work
T
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Re: Beta Repair System Restore -- SUCCESS!!
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2013, 11:22:49 PM »
All the trouble on my 64-bit Windows 7 machine began right after I installed Microsoft's EMET patch and then uninstalled it a day later because it slowed the computer down to a crawl.... (but strangely, EMET on the XP virtual machine doesn't seem to impact it at all.....)

The first problem I noticed (a week or so ago) was IE9 was now working very erratically - sometimes it would connect to old IE Favorites OK and other times it would just sit there spinning its wheels.  But then I found that System Restore was completely dead, which I mistakenly thought was a side effect of my next discovery; ALL my Restore points had been wiped out!! There was nothing listed there at all! - and I wasn't allowed to create any new ones.... But I did notice that my playing around with System Restore resulted in 24 copies of rstrui.exe all running simultaneously.

I did a Microsoft Windows Repair at bootup, and that allowed me to create some new Restore Points, at least.  And resetting IE9 to its default settings appeared to make it connect to a variety of sites more reliably (or did I imagine that?) - but still not as smoothly as it used to.

Then today: FreeFileSynch hung up completely while I was copying from one drive to another; it simply stopped. I discovered that I couldn't shut down the hung-up FreeFileSynch by using the Task Manager, but Process Explorer was able to shut it down (after a delay).

Then I discovered that now I could list a few recent Restore Points (although some less recent ones had disappeared - again) and I could still create new Restore Points (so I increased the disk space allocated to saving Restore Points, in case that was playing a part in all this). But System Restore still refused to run (nothing would appear to happen when I clicked on it) - and then I found (using the Task Manager) that yet again I had multiple instances of rstrui.exe running simultaneously (8 or 9).  So I closed all those down (using Process Explorer again) and rebooted and then ran Tweaking.com - Windows Repair (All in One) (v 1.9.18) for the very first time.

It ran MalwareBytes (which I aborted before it finished, because it was finding nothing, and I do frequent virus checks anyway); then CHKDSK (which reported some (unspecified!) errors - or was that just the persistent bad sector?); and then Microsoft's System File Checker which found numerous errors, including some (unspecified!) files that it said it could not fix....?

Then Tweaking.com - Windows Repair tried to repair the computer and I ran the beta System Restore Repair at the end, and rebooted.

Success!  Now some long-gone Restore Points have reappeared! And now System Restore offers to apply them:



And somehow Tweaking.com - Windows Repair restored the two long-gone System Image restore points at the bottom of the list!

Questions:

Does Windows Defender inhibit Tweaking.com - Windows Repair? Because I forgot to disable it, and of all the logs in C:\Program Files (x86)\Tweaking.com\Windows Repair (All in One), only two (windows_repair_hkey_local_machine_3_log.txt and windows_repair_hkey_local_machine_4_log.txt) seem to contain any information about what Tweaking.com - Windows Repair actually achieved. There were several warnings about "registry key is skipped (contains wildcard)" and "C:\System Volume Information\{long string1}{long string2} - CreateFile Error : 5 Access is denied" but almost the all the log files are completely empty, and the remainder don't say what Tweaking.com - Windows Repair actually succeeded in doing.

But something must worked in all of that, because System Restore now appears to be operational again!!!

And Question 2:

I finally pinned down the new (deviant) behavior of IE9 while I was fiddling with all this: it won't connect to any https site (such as https://www.google.com/) if I'm in any tab other than the very first one that IE9 opens up...  Does anyone know how to fix this annoyance?

ToM

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2013, 02:05:30 PM »
Glad to hear my tool helped :-)

From the sounds of it, it was a permissions problem.

But I am more curious on the chkdsk. If you have bad sectors that would explain a lot of the problems.

Have you done a bad sector check on the drive yet?

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Does Windows Defender inhibit Tweaking.com - Windows Repair? Because I forgot to disable it, and of all the logs in C:\Program Files (x86)\Tweaking.com\Windows Repair (All in One), only two (windows_repair_hkey_local_machine_3_log.txt and windows_repair_hkey_local_machine_4_log.txt) seem to contain any information about what Tweaking.com - Windows Repair actually achieved. There were several warnings about "registry key is skipped (contains wildcard)" and "C:\System Volume Information\{long string1}{long string2} - CreateFile Error : 5 Access is denied" but almost the all the log files are completely empty, and the remainder don't say what Tweaking.com - Windows Repair actually succeeded in doing.

That depends on what the AV flags. Some AV will stop the program from accessing certain things and such and sometimes things get flagged as a false positive. So to be safe I ask people to disable the AV. It also helps speed up the repairs since the AV ist scanning every single file the repair touches.

As for the contains wild cards, this is normal and you can ignore those.

The "C:\System Volume Information\{long string1}{long string2} is where the restore points are kept. The beta repair tries to take permission of those. If you have bad secotrs it can really mees witht he files and permissions.

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2013, 11:55:06 PM »
Hi Shane,

Thanks for the feedback! The single 4K bad sector has shown up repeatedly on CHKDSK runs, ever since I lost power during a thunderstorm several weeks ago.  It's the only bad sector on a 1 terabyte drive, so I don't worry about it.  Presumably it got corrupted.  Someday I'll try to fix it; right now I don't know of any utility s/w that can do that.

I didn't get any messages from Windows Defender when I ran your Windows Repair, so presumably there was no conflict there.

My latest problem is that all the Restore Points except the two System Image Restore Points disappeared (again) after I used 64-bit CCleaner; I was allowed to create a new one, however. So CCleaner is my prime suspect right now.  No, I didn't try using it to weed out "old" Restore Points; if it erased them it did so entirely on its own initiative.  I see web postings that indicate lots of other folks have been having the same problem; meanwhile the author(s) deny that it's possible. Yeah, right, sure!

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2013, 02:24:20 PM »
A bad sector is a hardware problem and even with just 1 bad sector more will come. If the drive is under warranty you should get it replaced while you can.

Any bad sectors, even one is a big no no :-)

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2013, 04:08:58 AM »
Hi Shane   :cheesy:
Love the new colour scheme v2.0.0
(green fonts and dark background that's so cool)
still no luck on the repair system restore I'm afraid...
but hey
keep up your great work Shane I'm sure you'll crack this little bugger shortly
cheers
T
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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2013, 07:12:33 AM »
Hi Shane
I found this very interesting and perhaps could be of some help   :thinking:

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Lost system restore points in Windows are a common complaint with people using disk defragmenters on machines running Vista and later Windows versions. What happens is the defrag operation moves files around causing the Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) to create snapshots that overwrite older ones and cause restore points to get deleted. If you have VSS enabled on your hard drive, or if you are not sure if you do, the first thing you should do after installing Auslogics Disk Defrag is go to Program Settings - Algorithms and set the program to defragment in VSS-compatible mode. This prevents excessive growth of the VSS storage area and ensures that your system restore points will remain intact.
Not all defraggers have this option, so be sure to never use the ones that don't if you have VSS enabled.

found here http://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/how-to-defrag/
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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2013, 04:48:10 PM »
Hi Shane
I found this very interesting and perhaps could be of some help   :thinking:

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Lost system restore points in Windows are a common complaint with people using disk defragmenters on machines running Vista and later Windows versions. What happens is the defrag operation moves files around causing the Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) to create snapshots that overwrite older ones and cause restore points to get deleted. If you have VSS enabled on your hard drive, or if you are not sure if you do, the first thing you should do after installing Auslogics Disk Defrag is go to Program Settings - Algorithms and set the program to defragment in VSS-compatible mode. This prevents excessive growth of the VSS storage area and ensures that your system restore points will remain intact.
Not all defraggers have this option, so be sure to never use the ones that don't if you have VSS enabled.

found here http://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/how-to-defrag/
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T
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Good find, but it looks like that option is only for that program. But it would explain some of the problems people have. I wonder if the fix for that is to just delete old volume snap shots?

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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2014, 08:17:07 AM »
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Good find, but it looks like that option is only for that program. But it would explain some of the problems people have. I wonder if the fix for that is to just delete old volume snap shots?

Shane

Erm sorry Shane I really don't know if it's just a fix for "old volume snapshots"

but hey I just downloaded your updated v2.6.0 it's looking better with your every update
Please continue with your constant daily hard work making Tweaking work better and better
I think this program really is growing and going from strength to strength
it's a darn nuisance though....if only that darn System Restore problem could be sorted eh....
never mind though I'm sure you'll conquer this minor glitch and not give up with it
Cheers Shane
T
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Re: Beta Repair System Restore
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2014, 10:06:00 AM »

Erm sorry Shane I really don't know if it's just a fix for "old volume snapshots"

but hey I just downloaded your updated v2.6.0 it's looking better with your every update
Please continue with your constant daily hard work making Tweaking work better and better
I think this program really is growing and going from strength to strength
it's a darn nuisance though....if only that darn System Restore problem could be sorted eh....
never mind though I'm sure you'll conquer this minor glitch and not give up with it
Cheers Shane
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Thanks :-) The volume snapshots have to do with VSS or the volume shadow copy. When system restore does or tries to do a backup it uses the VSS to do it. Well if the VSS has trouble it will fail. The VSS makes snaps shots of the files on the system so backup programs can copy them. Sometimes old snap shots  get in the way and make trouble. So there is a way in the cmd.exe to tell VSS to remove all old snap shots and sometimes that can help free up the problem.

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