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jraju:
Hi, Samson, i took backup all the drives of laptop. I even took backup of d: drive of pc, with robocopy to maintain the original date as it was created. But i am getting errors or progress stops at 5% whenever i click for backup of OS drive. i get some files stored in the ext.hdd , one temp files and another backup file, and xml file in a separate macrium folder.
                              First i had the problem of recognizing of ext. hdd in explorer, but not in list disk or disk management. So , i got crc error. I have used chkdsk /r both in pc as well as in ext.hdd. The ext.hdd chkdsk took almost 8 hours to check as it is 1.3tb.After that, when i tried the backup, it shows progress bar upto 5 and then stops there, no not responding but running in task manager. What would have been the issue. I tried to delete the previous backup file and temp file and xml file in the concerned folders, but still i could not take a backup.
                           I need to take the backup, as a few days back, there was error in booting with an alert to insert the dvd and choose repair. i could not log on safety mode, nor could be able to do anything. i even had to search for my OS dvd. Once i found it , i could not start the boot process with pen drive, as it was not recognized.
              i repaired the dvd disc and used plop.iso (linux based) and could get the boot priority menu on top of my screen and then selected the pendrive and opted for repair. Oh, almighty saved me from total loss of data.
                        After this incident, i now know the importance of backup and would ask you , how to further proceed in the matter.

Samson:
Way too much information J, I am confused, I have no idea which machine we are talking about here, Laptop, PC both?

 Let's deal with each machine separately. Start with which machine and which software Macrium or Robocopy? I can't help with Robocopy. I don't use it.

If all else fails you could just use Windows 7 built in back up if this is your desktop PC giving problems?

I don't know why you are messing about with using a Linux bootable CD in order to boot from the USB flash drive, just create the Macrium recovery CD  :rolleyes:


--- Quote from: jraju on July 29, 2017, 05:51:59 am ---First i had the problem of recognizing of ext. hdd in explorer, but not in list disk or disk management. So , i got crc error. I have used chkdsk /r both in pc as well as in ext.hdd. The ext.hdd chkdsk took almost 8 hours to check as it is 1.3tb.After that, when i tried the backup, it shows progress bar upto 5 and then stops there, no not responding but running in task manager. What would have been the issue.

--- End quote ---

CRC errors may mean the external HDD is failing/ faulty. Seagate? Test with SeaTools http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/support/downloads/seatools/

jraju:
Hi, To make it clear Samson,
                   I took OS backup of laptop using mac.ref of your version and then copied all other drives. I tested the recovery usb, by booting laptop to check whether it is booting. No problem with laptop as i have usb boot option there.
                   Then , i tried to take the back of pc, with mac.ref. Since download contain much files. I just moved the files from mydoucments and download folders from c: drive to D drive to reduce the size of c: drive. Then i tried, when the error came.
I already ran chkdsk on pc and ext hdd on my pc, which took hours for ext.hdd and about 2 hours in the pc hard disk. no problem was deducted and if at all, it would have been fixed with me opting chkdsk /r.
                      Now, my problem is , can i reformat the ext.hdd drive by moving the files stored in it to my pc in a folder in D drive. It was preloaded with some files. I am afraid that if i delete those, i may loose the easy connection.
                         Can i just copy the mmring backup file of laptop to the D drive and then format it?
                         I did diannosis with DST driveshort test which passed. I then opted for fast fix all test, in the hope that it would fix, but it failed at 77 percent on two counts.
                          Regarding robocopy, i just copied using it to copy files from d.drive on pc to my ext.hdd. drive, with success rate of 100 percent , fastly.
                           I could use the recovery usb (macrium rescue) on pc, only after taking the backup.
                           when i had the crc problem, my pc went out of order and i could not boot. I used plop.boot a linux program, to boot from pendrive, usb. The option is not there in my pc, which is having older hardwares. i used plop boot iso to retrieve my computer by going to the repair my computer in install window options. I just clicked repair instead of install option in the starting windows install screen. Now, i could boot my computer and view all the files.

Samson:
Yes, you can copy a macrium image file to another drive. I do not know about any program files from the manufacturer on the external drive though.

DST failed fix suggests the drive is faulty/ failing. Reformatting may not fix this.

jraju:
Hi, Samson, It is new hard disk i bought from amazon and I also registered the information in seagate site for warranty purpose.
You mean reformatting for quick format? pl. Anyhow i am going to do that. If the back up could not be read or the disk has any issue, as you say, the process of taking up of backup is useless. So, i have copied the image file to the d drive of pc and also necessary files.

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