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General Computer Support / Re: I have problems with my PC
« on: August 06, 2014, 09:34:45 am »
I would suggest running a anti virus/anti spyware program as well. Spybot search and destroy or malware bytes. Not sure what type of anti virus you are running, but make sure it's reputable

And before you install programs such as itunes. I would suggest running them through to see if there is a bunch of adware junk on it. Or really any program at all. I'm not too familiar with itunes, or how it works. But it sounds like junkware. You could get an itunes alternative that doesn't have adware and a bunch of stuff you don't need.

As for your video problems. I got a more practical solution for you, download Media Player Classic. And Combined Community Codec Pack (which will have all your decoders you probably need). Many people use MPC over windows media player. And if you are trying to play Real player files. You can install Real Alternative. And then you should be able to play those files through media player classic. MPC should be able to play almost any video file type.

It's more practical then using 4 to 5 video players and trying to update them all the time. You shouldn't have to update a player so often.

Also, for your connection issues. Do you have a firewall/router?

General Computer Support / Re: Tweaking
« on: August 06, 2014, 07:46:58 am »
What message does the bluescreen indicate? If you are having freezes, maybe it's time to test the hardware. Memtest the memory. Check your video card to see if it's updated to the latest drivers.

Maybe your bluescreen is related to driver issues. Which doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem with the hardware.

Maybe run sfc.exe (system file checker) also. Are you using Windows 7?

Are these freezes just random lock ups. Like the computer will just completely lock up? Or are most of them blue screens?

Ah, see I am always logged in and always pay with my debit card, dont use paypal on it.

But I do know that the ssl connection that you have with newegg wont be the same ssl connection that is made with paypal since the ssl connection is going to go to a different site, in this case paypal, and use their ssl cert from their server.

So it depends how they connect to paypal and how the new ssl connection will be. You will get the partially encrypted message when anything that loads on the page isnt through https (SSL). I have a feeling the page they are using to have you pay with paypal has something on the page that isnt coming through the https while the rest of the page is.

I have had that partial encrypted message on paypals site before, it all depends on the type of landing page that is being used. Most likely their is a image or javascript that the page is loading that isnt being loaded through ssl and is what is causing it.


Ahh, I see. I didn't have a problem with walmart or ebay. On newegg I just used a different browser and that worked. Just recently I tried to use another online store to make a purchase, and on two updated different browsers. It had the same problem. I contacted them, and they said their IT department is working on it.

I'm guessing there is nothing I can do on the user side of things. And it's up to the online store to fix things. Or is there? Am I being over paranoid here? Is it still safe to use with a partially encrypted message from the browsers? It's not something I usually mess around, if it says it's not encrypted or partially, to me that indicates a huge problem.

It's like I suddenly woke up today and the internet says nobody cares. We won't strive to be secure (I mean just the basics). This seems like a serious issue. And they would test these things, and have them fixed. From an IT perspective this is unacceptable in my eyes.  Yeah, I'm just kind of whining.....rant.... :undecided: 

Is it the browser Firefox, is it paypal, or is it because of the website that it redirects to paypal unsecured(from your explanation that seems very plausible) and that's why some redirects to paypal would be secure and some wouldn't.

Would you still make the purchase with a partially encrypted site if it's just to login with your account password and name?

And if ebay and walmart can do it, then more important sites like newegg should do it. And also, yes, on newegg site, apparently the button is linked through a javascript to check out. I did check a few things from firefox's media and general tabs. Everything indicates "https". Probably I'm missing something. I would have to inspect the html coding.

Have you tried testing it in a new profile in firefox? Also tried disabling any and all the add ons and extensions?

I have seen where the about:config in firefox gets changed somehow and things get screwed up. I use firefox (v31 currently) and newegg all the time nad I dont have that problem, so makes me think it might be a setting in the about:config

So a new user profile should let you have a fres clean default about:config.

Worth a shot :-)


Well, I went to my friend's house and the same thing happened. Did you do the same thing to reproduce the problem? You don't want to be logged in. This is how I got the problem:
1. go to
2. add item to cart (any item)
3. go to your cart (at this point I thought the website was suppose to be encrypted but it's not) (only checkout?)
4. Click checkout with paypal
5. Goes to paypal login page. Paypal appears without secure padlock stating it's not secure but partially encrypted

I always had this problem with firefox, that some stores encrypt and some don't. My firefox version is 27.0.
Now it's a problem with From what I understand it's suppose to show encryption padlock when I go to check out. But it doesn't work. Then when I go to checkout using paypal. Paypal isn't encrypted. Never had this problem with ebay.

Only link that works for me on newegg that encrypts is this:

Nothing else works on newegg. With In fact when I go to that link above. And then go to check out. It doesn't encrypt.

I get "The website does not support encryption for the page you are viewing"

Maybe that's not a big deal, but then when I checkout with paypal. It says this:

"Parts of the page you are viewing were not encrypted before being transmitted over the internet. Information sent over the internet without encryption can be seen by other people while in transit."
Connection Partially Encrypted

I tried contacting newegg. The only support I really got is, it's good on there end. Try clearing out cookies and disabling firewall. Tried both. Still doesn't work. Then the person suggested if that doesn't work use different computer or different browser <--- I consider that a lazy response to not fixing the real problem.

I tried disabling adblock plus, my firewall, and I deleted all the individual cookies all from newegg.

This is a persistent problem I had with firefox even with the older version. I just don't know what the deal is. Some stores will never let me encrypt. Then I have to get opera or another browser to do it. I use firefox for everything and trust it a lot more.

I think paypal will encrypt after I login. But that's besides the point. It should already show encryption at the login screen just like through ebay or any other store I use. I mean does firefox work for encryption with newegg for anyone else?

I think it really is on my end. But I don't know how to solve it. Any ideas? Or suggestions?

Update: I go to login page on and that it's partially encrypted:
Then I reload the page, then it states it's encrypted again. Click on Cart, then it goes unencrypted. Then go back to login page. goes to unencrypted. reload that page. And it's encrypted again. It's on and off. But for checkout it's never encrypted.

General Computer Support / Re: svchost.exe (during boot, especially)
« on: June 02, 2014, 03:34:14 pm »
It deleted these files


Those dll files attach to the network, so you did have something hooked to it that was causing it. it doesnt tell me what rootkit or virus it was, just the files names :-)


This morning, Boot time was under 2 minutes for Windows 7 x64!!!  Still have the DARK screen during and after Boot (just now, in fact!!  ~Ha~!)  I can live with that.  To recover the screen, I double-click Fn/F6 combination.  It is wonderful to have a responsive computer, again. 

Thank you!  Social Security on Tuesday!!!! YeeHah!!

"Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile"
Honor & Respect is all that matters.  AMEN!

Maybe if you can do a little digging you can figure out where you got these files from. I wish it wouldn't have deleted those files automatically until you could have uploaded to and scan it, see what kind of rootkit/virus it was.

General Computer Support / Re: Drives and chkdsk errors (re-opened)
« on: April 23, 2014, 04:55:17 pm »

I don't know if i should create a new thread or not.
A few minutes ago I downloaded the latest version 2.6.2 'all-in-one-windows repair'. I ran the 3rd option to check for disk errors.

No matter how many times i run it from the tweaking program it says errors found.
But if i run the chkdsk from cmd as an admin, it says no errors. I even did several boot time tests that didn't pick up the errors.

I have attached an event log from all chkdsk logs: from read only (cmd), boot-time and from tweaking program.

I just want to confirm which is true.
If this has got nothing to do with the condition of my hard drive, then i will create a new thread. please let me know.

Alternate way for you to check bad sectors. With HDD Regenerator.

Download this:

Make the boot disc.

Follow this:

Just scan for bad sectors, do not repair.  I just use chkdsk for Windows after I use this utility,  to repair file system problems due to bad sectors. Although it might take you longer depending on the size of your hard drive. But it might find bad physical sectors, which can't be repaired. That way you know it's using spares. I think when you reformat, all that is happening is that the hard drive is using spare physical sectors. Then when you use Windows utility you aren't discovering any bad sectors. Because those physical bad sectors are being mapped to new physical sectors, therefore there isn't bad sectors anymore that Windows can detect. Because they are already being remapped.

General Computer Support / Re: WMI Repair Tool
« on: April 23, 2014, 02:52:18 am »
OK I got it to run. I do not think if there was any errors, I did not see the last test because it restarted before I could read it. It did cuase some thing because I got the blue screen of death, with a message of "contact your tec support or adm for fewer assistance" It does not reboot and I cycle the power to reboot. What does this message mean  :sad: Before when the blue screen came up it would do a dump to log file (I think) then reboot.

You mean you can't get into the operating system now? When and at one point do you get the blue screen? Just after the chkdsk test? Or at the windows loading screen.  And If you can't get into the OS,  try F8 before the operating system loads, to get into safe mode.

Then you could Try this program to view the dump file:

And show us what the message said.

But you might want to run the manufacture's diagnostics on the hard drive. Preferably on a boot up disc. And run the Short SMART test, then the long one. 

And if you don't know the hard drive brand you use, you can either open the computer up and look at the serial/model number. Look it up on google. Or go into the bios and look to see what kind it is. Or Device Manager on Operating system or under My Computer - Right click drive properties

General Computer Support / Re: Drives and chkdsk errors
« on: April 23, 2014, 02:10:01 am »
In this case what is SMART complaining about
. I don't know. The software ''my dell'' says that it just failed the test and the problems started after 1900 + hours since system use. In any case, i will continue to use it and when it's time to replace the hard drive, i'll just do that.

Don't understand why you wouldn't run the manufacturer's utility for your specific brand of hard drive
- i did and that's why i know it failed the smart test. Or are you talking about something else ?

Oh you did (my mistake), but on your initial post you didn't say anything about checking that. That's the first thing I would have done or second thing immediately after seeing the result of bad sectors from chkdsk.  Just saying, don't forget it.  And manufacturer's utilities usually work best  if the drive has any problems. I rather not see someone going through the hassle of constantly running chkdsk and reformatting again and again if the drive is failing, especially if it fails the SMART test.

Because a person's data is more valuable then the drive itself. I wouldn't trust your data and operating system to a failing drive. But suit yourself, I guess. And if you start getting hard drive not found, or inaccessible boot disk errors. Then I really wouldn't use it.

General Computer Support / Re: Drives and chkdsk errors
« on: April 21, 2014, 05:35:36 pm »
Well, there is also categories. Bad logical sector vs Physical sector.

Don't understand why you wouldn't run the manufacturer's utility for your specific brand of hard drive. On a DOS boot up disc.  And other 3rd party utilities on a DOS boot up disc. To check SMART and for bad sectors. If it's a bad physical sector, it will never go away. If it's a bad logical sector, you can repair it. And it won't show up again, unless it reoccurs. I think one or more bad physical sectors will eventually lead to more and more. Then you basically need to throw the hard drive away.

I wish firefox or chrome had a way for a program to use thier browser and work with the pages, but only IE does.

Since I program in VB6 I need xp, so I just use vmware for all the extra OS's I need. XP to program in, and all the others to test my repairs in and such.

If you do use vmware let me know, I found a bug in every version of vmware where it would cause a horrible system slow down every 5 min that last for about 10 sec. What it was doing was writting memory or something to the drive, problem is the way it was writing to the drive caused anything that was trying to read off the drive to slow to a crawl. I watched the drive speed with my drive speedometer and the usage never went above 3 MB/s but playing video or anything needing the drive would stop or stutter until vmware was done.

So I did some searching and found other people who had it and I found a fix.

After you make the vmware OS and you have the .vmx file. Edit the vmx file with notepad and put this at the end of it

MemTrimRate = "0"
mainMem.useNamedFile = "FALSE"
sched.mem.pshare.enable = "FALSE"
prefvmx.useRecommendedLockedMemSize = "TRUE"

Save and reopen vmware, now when that OS runs that problem is gone and zero slow down on my system :-)


Thank you for the heads up. I will definitely let you know if the problem exists, when I get around to installing it. I plan on using VirtualBox, since it's free and open source. I hope they fixed the bugs that you are talking about. Seems like a easy fix, although.

I checked and the version of ieframe.dll on my xp in vmware with all updates is newer than the v8 you had. ieframe.dll is used by IE and allows programs to use it to have a web browser control in them, like my simple port forwarding program. So a lot of programs use the ieframe.dll in order to display webpages in them.

The version you are using is a version meant for a newer version of IE but has backwards compatibility so it works :-)

Sometimes the only way to find a cause to a problem is to ask the right questions  :wink:


Yeah, before I fixed it. I downloaded the latest Internet Explorer version. That didn't work. I usually only download critical updates. Unless something doesn't work. Unless something is required like netframework, then I'll get it. I have now reformatted and installed Windows 7. I will try vmware with XP, and then try the program again. Because I want to use it (have to get A+ certficiation). I don't think it's malware after all. I never cared about Internet Explorer, so I disabled that years ago, along with windows media player. And my current ieframe.dll in Windows 7 is 8.00.7601.18404.

I don't know what exact updates you installed to get yours working. But as long as my OS doesn't act like it's broken (not to mention make me paranoid malware has compromised my system), then I'm satisfied. And I learned a lot just in case a similar problem reoccurs.

And if that's the case that other programs use ieframe.dll, then it should not go in the system32 directory, but go in their own directory. I shouldn't have to update my system to accommodate special programs that rely on a crappy browser.

Thanks, you asked the right questions. And now the problem is solved. I  thought I would never be able to fix this problem. And I was already to reformat and install Windows 7.

The error message is now gone. I was using the wrong "ieframe.dll" in my system32, apparently this program that I installed put it in there and overwrited the older one without warning. Don't know how it did it.

It put : "11.00.9600.16521 (winblue_gdr_escrow.140228-1503)" in my system32 folder

My version I'm suppose to be using "8.00.6001.23286 (longhorn_ie8_ldr.111214-1815)" from a fresh pack of XP service pack 3

Apparently Winblue is Windows 8.1.

This version of ieframe.dll expects there to be cxxframehandler3 in msvcr, not to mention a bunch of other dlls that windows xp doesn't uses, and other entry points. That's just it, I wanted to know why my operating system requesting for something not found in msvcr in XP versions of that DLL.

I don't know why system file checker just didn't go ahead and replace that wrong version (Perhaps it couldn't, I was running sfc.exe from the operating system). Now the program that I installed didn't install or even have ieframe.dll. And I didn't see it install itself into the system 32 system for that matter.

It's when I installed and downloaded "220-801(A+Essentials)" exam pack through the program itself. That's when it installed a bunch of other files. Because I found a copy of ieframe.dll in my "C:\Program Files\\Test Engine\220-801(A+Essentials)\Support" folder.

Then I don't know where from there how it installed it into my system32 folder. I don't know if it modified a registry key or what it did to get it installed. I would have to watch it with "InstallWatchPro25" to see what happens. 

Update: And now I noticed some new programs that I installed,  that crashed right away. Now they don't crash, and they run.

Maybe I missed it, but what program itself is causing the error looking for it?

I know it was a rundll , but that is normally running a dll or other file that would be causing the error.

You will also notice how a lot of the other programs that use different versions of the dll files will have the files with them in the same folder. So what file is causing the error in the first place?


Alright, I checked on a few things, as soon as I press the device manager button on the system properties.  Process Explorer showed 3 things that Rundll32.exe was trying to access when the Entry Point error occurred.


I loaded ieframe.dll into dependency walker. There some major problems with this dll.  It can't find a bunch of dlls that are missing. Apparently ieframe.dll links back to msvcr, which appears to be red. Also when I clicked on msvcr, there is a CxxFrameHandler3 Function not available that is showing up in red. This must be the culprit.

General Computer Support / Re: Bluescreen Stop Error 0000F4
« on: April 12, 2014, 04:18:19 am »
After showing this to my older tech brother for him to listen to the noise he said the hard drive is just broke.

After a friend over skype perfectly described the sound its making he agrees.

I think the hard drive is just broke.

Yeah, in that case, you don't even have to run manufacturer's HD diagnostics on it to know it's broke,  but you still could. At this point, it's probably too much of a risk to use it. Hopefully you backed up your data. You can also look in the event viewer to see if system errors came up.

What model/brand/serial is this hard drive?

And also, it's interesting to note, I was dealing with a hard drive that had basically a bad logical sector (a stuck sector), I tried everything to back up the data as a secondary drive in a windows environment (just didn't work). Finally I just loaded it up as a secondary drive in Linux Live cd. And I was able to copy the data. Makes me wonder why hard drives work better using Linux. Better copy tools, also.

OK I did some checking and on my XP system in vmware I have SP3 and all updates. I have C++ runtimes 2005, 2008, 2010 and 2012 all installed.

Not a single msvcrt.dll has the CxxFrameHandler3.

HOWEVER when you install the newer runtimes the msvcrt.dll has a different file name for the newer runtime versions as you can see in the picture. The function call starts with the 2008 runtimes and newer.

So that should help us go in the right direction. The program that is giving you the error is trying to use msvcrt.dll when it should be using msvcr100.dll or one of the other files that has the correct call. For some reason, what ever changed or was added to the registry is causing the wrong file to be loaded.


Ahh just noticed something with that picutre,  I'm missing msvcr100_clr0400.dll, which was apparently installed on a fresh install of XP Pro Service Pack 3.  I put it in the folder, tried to register it, it said it can't register it. Restarted, still same error.

Should I enter into the


Folder? Maybe my problem has something to do with this

Because under another fresh install copy of windows xp service pack 3
It only has this one as a shared dll

Mine has msvcrt.dll in msvcr100_clr0400.dll place:


Perhaps msvcr100_clr0400.dll is suppose to be used instead of msvcrt.dll. Or perhaps msvcr100_clr0400.dll is suppose to be in this registry.

Update: well, I just put mine in the program you used. And this is what it came up with.

Have you checked if the dll is also in c:\windows\system32\dllcache?

I went to check it, there are different versions.

7.0.2600.5701 (xpsp_sp3_qfe.081025-1544)
is the one I have in my system32

7.0.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
is the one I have in my system32/dll cache

And  both of them only have CxxFrameHandler and not 3

And also, I ran " Test Engine 2.2.0 - Modified Registry - Before Install.reg" , had to change a few lines before it worked, my reg user id HKey_USERS was different than the other computer I got it from. Then restarted computer. And the error still appears. Maybe it's because it wasn't something it modified in registry, it was something it added. There must be a way to tell the registry how to handle msvcr.dll files and not load this function (CxxFrameHandler3). Or down date the version it think it's suppose to using. If I think that is the problem in the first place.

Thats why I wanted you to use my registry backup program, it would have replaced the registry files with the backup ones :-)


I take it you wanted me to do a fresh install (XP service pack 3) on same computer here with different hard drive. Back up that registry using your program. And bring that back up on this hard drive (with the problem) , and restore it that way? Wouldn't I lose all of my programs installed? From the beginning, not to mention my configuration?

Or maybe I wouldn't lose my programs, but I would lose my configuration for my programs?

OK so the CxxFrameHandler3 is a new option in the dll that is only in newer versions of the dll file that isnt in the default Windows xp one.

Yes, exactly.

I have a feeling what is happening is a file is being replaces to the system32 folder but then the sfc is putting the old file right back.

Hmm, not sure. Seems highly unlikely. I still think it has to do with registry.

Have you installed VC++_ runtime files 2005, 2008 and I think 2010? I mean run them all.

They were uninstalled previously, when I was trying to fix the problem. So today, I installed them one by one. And restarted to see if that fixed the problem. It didn't. And interesting to note.
When I went to install "Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable update 3" That same error came up again. I just clicked okay, installed and restarted. Problem wasn't  fixed.

But what I normally do when I need to see what files and regkeys are being used by a program is I use this

Then put in a filter to only monitor one process name. Then i can see exactly where and what it is touching.

Tried it, took me some time to learn how to use it. I tried it on the rundll32.exe error when I try to access device manager from system properties. I didn't see it accessing msvcr.dll. I started logging right before I clicked device manager, then clicked it, then stopped the logging. You can take a look at it. I'll attach it, I have no idea what I'm looking for, actually. And I don't know why "Entry Point Not Found" is not displayed. Maybe you know what to look for.

And also, I ran " Test Engine 2.2.0 - Modified Registry - Before Install.reg" , had to change a few lines before it worked, my reg user id HKey_USERS was different than the other computer I got it from. Then restarted computer. And the error still appears. Maybe it's because it wasn't something it modified in registry, it was something it added. There must be a way to tell the registry how to handle msvcr.dll files and not load this function (CxxFrameHandler3). Or down date the version it think it's suppose to using. If I think that is the problem in the first place.

Also, another thing when I go to "System Restore" point tools.
I get "System Restore: rstrui.exe - Entry Point Not Found" before it loads up. 5 or 6 times. then 3 to 4 more times when I click next.

Damn it, I made a mistake. I found out something important. There is no CxxFrameHandler3 in msvcr.dll, there is only CxxFrameHandler.

The only CxxFrameHandler3 I found is in this version:
7.0.6002.18551 (vistasp2_gdr.111214-0301)

That will cause a system fatal error in Windows XP. Leads me to the question if there is no CxxFrameHandler3 with any XP versions of msvcr.dll's then why is my operating system asking for CxxFrameHandler3?

Well, I'm experiencing DLL HELL apparently on wikipedia and I think it has to do with this (I think):

"Incorrect COM registration

In COM and other parts of Windows, prior to the introduction of side-by-side Registry-free assemblies,[5] the Registry was used for determining which underlying DLL to use. If a different version of a module was registered, this DLL would be loaded instead of the expected one. This scenario could be caused by conflicting installations that register different versions of the same libraries, in which case the last installation would prevail."

Not sure this is it, but it's interesting to note one of the msvcrt.dll that it extracts is:
7.0.7601.17744 (win7sp1_gdr.111215-1535), but it never put that in the system32, unless I missed something, but according to my program it just put itself in it's own installation folder and in another installation folder. It also never added it to the registry or modified it to the registry. Perhaps when I ran the program itself, it then proceeded to register itself in the registry. I must check that.

And thanks to this great program that I used I have a registry file
" Test Engine 2.2.0 - Modified Registry - Before Install.reg"

which would revert all the registry settings back to normal before the install. But running that is a risk, since it was from a different computer (although same OS windows xp service pack 3. But if I can back up my registry config files if anything bad happens. Perhaps I should run this. And perhaps I should check out another program to see what happens to the registry if I run the program itself.

Well if you are a little OCD like myself then there is a way to at least trace down the problem lol

What I would do is a fresh reinstall. Make sure everything works like it should.

Then right before I install the program causing the problem I do a registry backup with my reg backup program.

Then I use a tool to compare 2 registries. I have one on my system here. It will scan the registry to a file. Then I would install the program.

Once the program is installed I use the program to scan a 2nd copy of the registry and it will then tell me the differences between the two.

Then with that info I can trace down where the problem is.

Then I would restore the registry from y reg backup program so i wouldn't have to deal with the error just yet :-)


Great thinking.

I got another computer I can use that uses deepfreeze. Then I can take a snapshot of my registry before I install the program. Then take a snapshot right after I install the program, then compare. I don't even need to reset my computer. Yes, this does give me something to think about. Just got to find the right programs. I still think I can fix this problem without doing a fresh install.

Yeah, and I do feel OCD about solving the problem, lol.

It shouldnt be C?\

On those 2 regkeys go ahead and fix them with C:\ instead of C?\ and then reboot and lets see what happens.


alright, I changed it and restarted, same error.

Now, I decided to run this setup program on a machine with deepfreeze. So any changes that happens revert on restart.  What the program did was extract a bunch of dll files into that system32 folder and then registers every single one of them. I tried to record what it does with my video camera, but it was too blurry. I took some screenshots of this process. I think it did what you said, it registered old dll files, but what you said before you can't register that msvcrt.dll.

Although it gave the error, can not find symbol: DLLRegisterServer. Which I think means you can't register those ones. The ones that it did register gave no error.

I'll try to record this with a better camera.

Also for instance, it registered MSVBVM60.DLL

I looked in that extract folder:
It's version

Now I looked into my system32
It's version

perhaps sfc.exe fixed the files in my system 32. But when this exam setup decided to register a file, something in the registry messes it up. Maybe I need to re-register the files (with updated dlls in system32) that are possible to register that this program did with the older versions.

well, I registered msvbvm60.dll. That succeeded

And low and behold I found DllCertUni.dll in my system32 folder. Which this program installed. Have no idea what it does or doesn't do. doesn't indicate it much. I should probably delete it. Although I wonder if this is registered dll. When I searched registry it is in there

Default C:\WINDOWS\system32\DllCertUni.dll
ThreadingModel Apartment

update: I pretty much give up at this point. I deleted DellCertuni.dll and those folders that belonged to it in the registry. Then I restarted, still the same problem. I'm already backing up my data and preparing to reinstall operating system, preferably Windows 7 Ultimate version.

update: although I have been reading a lot about DLL registry here:
because it has to do with msvcrt.dll and how I have to fix it.

Maybe this is the key to resolving my problem. I just don't know how to do it.

I think it has to do with LoadLibrary() API.

God I am a dork, I need to reread what I type lol

I meant registry search  :tongue:


Ah, no problem lol, not a big deal. Yeah, I recalled doing that. Nothing I saw was pointing to that specific directory. I also put the new msvcrt40.dll and msvcrt.dll in that folder from system32, restarted, same error, files didn't change in that folder.

I did find something strange although in my registry, don't know if this is the problem.


don't know if that's normal.

From the sound of everything that I read, I dont think the problem is the files themselves in the system32 folder.

The error that is coming up is saying that CxxFrameHandler3 doesn't exsit. Yet you checked and know it does.

What happens is this. When you register a dll or ocx file in Windows it writes itself to the registry and its location. So when that program installed itself it has very old versions of those files and then it registered those files to the registry. So now when a program that uses those files you get the error because Windows is loading those instead of the correct ones because the registry points to them instead.

What you need to do is register the ones in the system32 folder again, and I mean all of them that might have gotten registered with the old versions.

You could also try replacing the old ones in that other folder with proper ones as well.

I just tried to do a regsvr32.exe on those files on my system and none of them support being registered like that, so it is possible that other program changed the registry keys of where it should be pointing.

Have you done a registry server for Msvcirt.dll to see if you can find any regkeys that are pointing to the E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Ebooks\Exam simulator\CertExams.220-702.A.Plus.Practical.Application.Exam.Simulator.v2.0.0-CRD\setup\Test Engine\220-702(A+PracticalApplication)\Support folder?


Yeah, I did think of that. So I made a folder in that folder

E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Ebooks\Exam simulator\CertExams.220-702.A.Plus.Practical.Application.Exam.Simulator.v2.0.0-CRD\setup\Test Engine\220-702(A+PracticalApplication)\Support\back up critical system msvcrt libraries

And cut and paste
to the "back up critical system msvcrt libraries"

Now when I looked in the Support folder,  now it appears those 2 dlls are  back in there. (can't recall if that's what I did, or those just reappeared in there) (might need to restart). There is also more dll files in that folder, uninstall didn't really do a proper uninstall.

E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Ebooks\Exam simulator\CertExams.220-702.A.Plus.Practical.Application.Exam.Simulator.v2.0.0-CRD\setup\Test Engine\220-702(A+PracticalApplication)\Support

I just cut and paste them out of the folder again, so it's not like the system is using them. Let me put the proper ones in that folder then. Not sure how to do a registry server, first I heard of that. I'll try to restart to see if anything happens in that folder.

Also, When I uninstalled the program there seems to be dll's in that folder that just stayed there. Mean while, can you tell me how to do a registry server?

Hi, I had this problem where if I load, certain functions on my operating system, I get this error message:
"The procedure entry point __CxxFrameHandler3 could not be located in the dynamic link library msvcrt.dll"
Functions still work, it just tells me that everytime I start it. Press okay, continue

First of I'm running Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3.

To solve this problem I ran a google search on it. Here is what I did to try and solve the problem:
I replaced the "msvcrt.dll" 7.0.2600.5701 (xpsp_sp3_qfe.081025-1544) file with "msvcrt.dll" 7.0.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)
That didn't work.
Next I got :



From a fresh install of Windows XP with service pack 3. I noticed the files were the same CRC and same versions. So I didn't think it would matter. So I did it anyways.

Still no success same errors. So I figured it maybe malware.

So I ran spybotsearch and destroy, ran an update it. And then started a scan, during this time. This message kept on popping up
"The procedure entry point __CxxFrameHandler3 could not be located in the dynamic link library msvcrt.dll"

a thousand times, so I decided to try to boot up to safe mode. And try to run the scan, and it still does it.
Anyways, I clicked okay about a thousand times, and completed the scan. It said no malware found.
Then I tried opening device manager in safe mode. It still said the same errors.
regedit.exe - works no error. (not in safe mode, or in safe mode)
but when I run "regedit32.exe" both in safe mode and not in safe mode, still same error.

So I did more research on the internet, and found out that msvcrt.dll is linked to microsoft visual C++, so I uninstalled all a couple of versions, to see if it would work. Nope didn't work. Then I decided to uninstall all my versions. And now it still doesn't work. (By the way all of these Visual C++ are redistribution packs that were downloaded from Microsoft's website (so no malware should be on them)

So I decided to install a new version C++
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable (x86) Version: 12.0.21005.1

That didn't work (so I uninstalled it), at this point I got a little frustrated (after spending 8 hours trying to solve the problem). I know the guide that I read said I shouldn't do it. But I went downloaded Msvcrt 7.0.6002.18551 (vistasp2_gdr.111214-0301) from So I loaded up computer to a command prompt before Operating System, renamed the old msvrct to msvcrt.bak, and copied that new one from my desktop to the system32 files. Result was disastrous.

Fatal System Error stop message.

So I restarted, and deleted that msvcrt and renamed old one to msvcrt.dll. Got operating system back. This time, I decided to run
SFC.exe /scannow, (annoying program that bitches about windows xp cd that I have in, where I have to click keeping retry.) Anyways, I completed it and restarted. Still same error message.

At this point, I started thinking when this error start occurring. I installed a program called "CE_APlusPracApp.exe". I think this has something to do with it (last program I installed). So I looked in the folder
"E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Ebooks\Exam simulator\CertExams.220-702.A.Plus.Practical.Application.Exam.Simulator.v2.0.0-CRD\setup\Test Engine\220-702(A+PracticalApplication)\Support"

There are all of these old dll files, and they are of course "MSVCRT.DLL" "MSVCRT40.DLL" The file version on MSVCRT.DLL (6.00.9782.0) CRC: D1BBDE44, and MSVCRT40.DLL (4.22.0000) CRC 163AC2D0. I know these files are sometimes are specifically used for their own program. The program is strange anyways, it seems old like a windows 95 or windows 98 program. Anyways, I really think this program had to do with it. I remember comodo firewall defense monitoring it when it went through it's complicated install process. I'm not sure, but I think it's a screw up on the registry. Furthermore, I always make sure before I install a program I use And it reported no viruses or malware over 0/50 detection ratio. I went to check it out now and it was 1 detection (Trojan.Nsis.Inject.cvxsmx ). Furthermore I'm just talking about the setup program. The original files came from a zip. I think the mistake I made was when I ran this setup, it could have used a program called crd.exe, which has a
Detection ratio: 15 / 50
Maybe that's the program it ran when I went to install the setup. With not thinking to check every file before I installed this.
I could have installed a trojan that compromised my registry. Anyways, I deleted crd.exe. And uninstalled the program

So then I ran malwarebytes, it didn't find anything then I ran: "Tweaking Repair All in One)" I selected
9. Remove Policies Set By infections
25. Restore Important Windows Services

And then I restarted, still I get the same error.

Then I decided to run a full virus scan using the program "ESET Smart Security" It found a few viruses that I don't use. That I'm aware of are viruses, flv player. Because I ran that through and never used them because of too many false positives.

E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Flv player\FLV Player\setup.exe » INNO » {tmp}\setup__1406.exe - a variant of Win32/Amonetize.B potentially unwanted application

E:\Users\User\Desktop\downloads\Flv player\FLV Player\setup.exe » INNO » {tmp}\Lucky-Savings.exe » NSIS » LuckySavings.exe - is OK

Stuff like that, but nothing real serious. And now, I am where I am right now. I have no idea what's going on here. I have 90% certainty it was that program that caused the trouble. And no I can't go back to a restore point before that time because I don't have one.

I'm not a msvcrt.dll or C++ expert. What could be doing this? how does this work, why can't it find The procedure entry point __CxxFrameHandler3 ? Is it looking at the wrong msvcrt.dll? Did this program register a old windows 95 msvcrt.dll into the registry and it's ignoring the one in the system32 version? Should I some how replicate (reinstall this program)
"CE_APlusPracApp.exe" in a protected environment under deep freeze, so anything changed on the hard drive is reverted on restart. So I can monitor on comodo firewall to see what it does to the registry? And report back here?

There also is this ( in Tweaking Repair All in One)
26. Set Windows Services to Default Startup

"Set Windows Services To Default Startup:

This will set the Windows services to their default start up state. Special thanks to blackviper for having all the default information handy.

This will set the services startup by the "sc config" command and not by the registry.

To edit or view, all services and their startup are in the services_startup.txt in the files folder."

Should I do that? Backup registry and make a restore point. Anyways, I don't know what the problem is. I need a Microsoft Visual C++ Expert dll expert on the subject here would be helpful. If you know what is going on or having utility tools let me know.

By the way the file is

And it is an older version of the program I found on some where else, I went on their website and their new version is (I think I can't remember)

Anyways, after this I ran "in Tweaking Repair All in One" with all the defaults selected, it took about 50 mins. I restarted, problem still not fixed. Then I did windows update, 56 fixes, restarted, and still not fixed. Now, I'm very stressed. All I can do is be compulsive about the problem And not do anything else until I fix the problem. I saw the link in this program and decided to go here. And ask for help.

One thing I noticed:
When I try to load device manager through right click my computer, properties, hardware, device manager. It comes up as "rundll32.exe - Entry Point Not Found"
"The procedure entry point __CxxFrameHandler3 could not be located in the dynamic link library msvcrt.dll" Will come up, I press okay, and continue.

But if I go to right click my computer - manage - click on device manager. No error message.
regedit.exe no error message
regedt32.exe error message.

So it's three programs that do it, regedt32.exe, rundll32.exe, and spybotsearch and destroy.

I noticed if I run "dependencywalker" I can make the error appear. By dinking around with it. I also notice the __CxxFrameHandler3 is indeed in msvcrt.dll.

I don't know what to do at this point. Any help would be appreciated.

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