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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2021, 03:22:26 AM »
I'm not sure which other 2 to which you are referring. The Everything file is my config for those unfamiliar with that program as I wrote. The text file just references the Profile Permissions Error in the dump file and the ManageACL can be opened with notepad or whatever text editor you prefer (I just re-checked). Alternately, there are dump analyzer programs as I'm sure you are aware.

Whatever the case, they all match the Profile file along with the 'failure to decompress' in the repair log you found, which again is little wonder given the truncated 32 byte size. When the file is replaced with the older version 4.9 file of approximately 8000 bytes or 8 KB along with the necessary changes to file_list to match the checksums, the program runs without issue, dump files, error logs etc.

If that's not good enough evidence for anyone, I respect their right to make that choice. Respecting their choice is another matter altogether.

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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2021, 06:51:01 AM »
Though I was intending to write a lengthy explanation of the workaround to highlight the advanced methods outlined within the program, in light of the lack of acknowledgement, explanation or for that matter action to take what would amount to a simple step to eradicate this issue, I'll keep it short and hopefully useful for anyone with the wherewithal to utilize what they may find.

As most users would know when initializing the program, it runs a file check and MD4 hash to ensure the files in the program match the file_list and the corresponding checksums. This is useful for advanced users who want to customize the service start-up for example as depicted in the attached file: 'Set Windows Services To Default Startup'.
In that file at the end there is a note regarding checksums, which is how I managed to implement this workaround and prove my findings along the way.

If you take a functioning file (in this case the W7 Profile from v 4.9) and simply replace it with the problematic file of the same name (in any version after v 4.9, they're all the same), you would get a checksum error message when the program is loading. Attached are the functioning 8 KB Profile file from v 4.9 and the 32 byte file from v 4.11.7.

To overcome this, if you have the file_list from the alternate program version, you can copy the file's checksum from there or just make a note of it via copy and paste using a text editor. Then open then file_list in the later version and change the checksum for the changed file to match that files checksum from the original file_list or what the program reported in error. Close the file_list after pasting over the original checksum (make a back-up just in case) and you're done.

Now you have a matching file and checksum in the file_list. When you next initialize the program, all files, hashes etc are shown to be intact. Moreover, the repairs are performed without error, dump files or malformations of any kind and the repair log reports all success in all areas including the profile permissions, unlike before the changes were made.

If that is useful to anyone, then it's worth the effort. If it continues to be discarded or not taken as self evident, then I would raise caution to anyone before trusting bugs, glitches or other issues have been addressed in a manner that ensures the safety of your O.S.

Please note, I came here to contribute my time and energy for the benefit of this program and the users herein, with the hope of making a worthwhile difference and learning what I could; nothing more.

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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2021, 07:18:13 AM »
As the program runs fine as you've previously said, why are you bothering with this ?

Most people who have used this program are full of praise for it.

The program has moved on from 4.9 and Shane is currently adding Win 11 to it.
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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2021, 08:44:47 AM »
Wow, some people you just can't reach.

The program runs fine only after my workaround i.e. importing an old file and checksum. Without that workaround, the 32 byte file in all versions post 4.9 causes the same issue. Equally, the workaround solves that issue.

The point is, once that file was reduced from 8000 bytes to 32 bytes it failed to decompress (since it was basically empty) and failed to do the job as it was intended.

Restore the file in the program... Or is that the standard, if most people don't know there's a problem, who cares? Move on and put your faith in the next overlooked flaw.

Whatever.

I've had enough of this.

All that's happened here is a prime example of how trust in a program is eroded.

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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2021, 09:17:33 AM »
Search the forum and let me know how many serious complaints you find about the program.

I've used it a number of times as trials without any adverse effects.

How does what you have found affect the program.

I ran it on my Win 7 and there were none of the files you have found.

Check out v4.11.6 to see if it still produces what you have found.

It may be academic though as Shane is working on a new version that will incorporate Win 11.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2021, 11:33:27 AM by Boggin, Reason: Typo »
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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2021, 04:05:42 PM »
From your attached repair log:

'Decompressing & Updating Windows Permission File C:\Program Files (x86)\Tweaking.com\Windows Repair (All in One)\files\permissions\7\profile.7z
Failed to decompress the file!'

The Everything program on the previous page was recommended in case people had dump files on their system which weren't caught by other means as I had found.

Nonetheless, your own log file states quite clearly what I have pointed out. Stating this file presents no problem over and over is not an explanation of a failure in your own logs nor does it satisfy any measure of basic math given the virtually non-existent size of 32 bytes and corresponding failure to decompress.

As written, the truncated profile file is the same in all post v 4.9 programs and predictably, causes the same issues. The last attached 32 byte profile file is from v 4.11.7

Since there has been absolutely no acknowledgement of the possibility of an issue, there is at this stage, no reason to believe any updated version will attend to this all too easy to fix file or any other that may raise concern for users for that matter.

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Re: Problem in all versions post v 4.9 on W7
« Reply #31 on: Today at 02:43:21 AM »
I've asked Shane to look at your thread but as he's getting over Covid, I'm not sure when I'll get a reply.
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