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Windows 10 upgrade, 10 tries, 10 fails
Boggin:
I'd just like to make a correction to one of my earlier posts.
GPT is for HDDs greater than 2.1GB and not 3TB.
GussNemo:
Hi Boggin,
That boo-boo is okay, I wouldn't know the difference anyway. Plus, reformatting the HD isn't going to happen just to upgrade to Windows 10. I'd stick with Windows 7 in that case.
I did do another Option 2 on Windows Repair the other day, as you suggested. It found nothing to fix in the Environmental side but found two in the Reparse--I think it's called--side. Both of those dealt with Documents so it wasn't anything critical.
I'm coming to the conclusion that Windows Repair has done all it can to fix any problems, and what's been fixed wasn't the initial problem to begin with. Because of everything else I've tried, per MS posts/support, and other posts, I've basically eliminated a lot of things which might have been the problem. For example, one suggesting was to unplug all peripherals, that is printer, hubs, external HD, etc. I did this and still had problems upgrading to Windows 10. So as far as I can see, the problem isn't with any peripherals.
Chkdsk and sfc /scan now found nothing wrong, so what they check for is not causing problems. Deleting the contents in the Download folder under Software Distribution, I think it was, as suggested, changing nothing. Upgrade still failed. In short, I've followed a lot of suggestions and nothing kept Windows 10 upgrade from failing, so all of those have been eliminated as causes.
The only two I haven't followed is using the Windows Repair on the Windows 7 installation disk, or that's what one post said it would be. The other is uninstalling any antivirus software I have on the system. I believe this is what I will do next, but have to wait for a copy of the license I have with the antivirus company I purchased it from. I've read posts where some had trouble installing an earlier version of windows when the antivirus I use was on their systems. I've nothing else to lose since if removing the antivirus doesn't allow Windows 10 to upgrade, I won't know anything else to do. Short of finding a qualified IT tech and pass the buck to them, out of my pocket of course.
Boggin:
Rather than uninstalling your AV program, boot up into Safe Mode with Networking which will isolate your AV and then try the Upgrade now button in that mode.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-10-upgrade
You can now do a clean install using the ISO disk and use the COA sticker key to activate it, whereas before, you had to upgrade through Windows Update from a qualifying Windows version.
Unfortunately with a clean install you would lose everything in C: so as well as creating a system image of your current install to external media, you would also need to back up your personal stuff to reinstall and then reinstall your programs.
http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/
It's also best prior to the upgrade, to go into Setup (BIOS) and permanently change the boot order to boot from DVD and USB before the HDD as those functions may not work after the upgrade.
GussNemo:
Hi Boggin,
I have looked into trying to upgrade using Safe Mode, unfortunately that isn't possible as everything needs to be seen by the Windows 10 upgrade software; or so the posts I read said. It would be nice if it could happen because it would eliminate one more something which might be the cause of my problems.
As I understand it, there are two choices when using ISO to upgrade. One, as you said, is a clean install, losing everything on the HD, making it necessary to reload everything that's wanted/needed. The other is as a regular upgrade, again, from the posts I've read. Going the clean install route, Windows 10 is then not an upgrade but a new product, and would require buying the registration key, again from posts I've read. Someone even argued with a MS rep concerning this, but got nowhere. Needless to say they were hot under the collar. The other problem, if you want to call it that, is having to reinstall everything wanted or needed. That would include all browsers, office software, any games, etc. Going with a clean install goes from a simple install to a massive install once everything is done. And if MS hasn't figured out by now many have to go the ISO clean install route, and are still requiring payment for the key, just as though you bought the software, then I'd be out the cost of of the key.
No, come Monday, hopefully, I'll uninstall the AV on our system and try to upgrade once again. And if the upgrade works then I'll reinstall the AV, though I'll have to reinstall it even if the upgrade fails.
This mishmash of providing error messages without details makes it next to impossible to find the problem. And this mishmash of try this or try that isn't much better. Especially for the home owner who isn't a computer tech.
Boggin:
It was a bit disappointing that the upgrade doesn't work in Safe Mode as that is the safest way to run without an AV program.
Didn't you read the second link I'd posted regarding the clean install which deals with activating using your computer's COA sticker key - and I agree, a clean install is absolutely the last resort.
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