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Getting back to hear/here;

I did a surface scan and found BAD Sectors, this means we need a new hard drive! period....

For reference, chkdsk DOES not repair file to their original state;

we must look in each chkdsk folder saved on th ehard drive and copy thos files from the restore disks...

Probably a root cause of Black Screen issue!

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows Update error 80073712
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:43:48 PM »
I hate that MS even decided on the winsxs folder. It will always grow and never shrink and once it is broken there is no way to repair it.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askcore/archive/2008/09/17/what-is-the-winsxs-directory-in-windows-2008-and-windows-vista-and-why-is-it-so-large.aspx

You would think MS would have a rebuild or repair tool for the winsxs folder, but of course they dont. I dont know where or how the info in the winsxs folder is stored, so I don't think I could even make a repair for it. If I could find where the data of what is in the winsxs folder is stored perhaps it could be rebuilt.

Shane

I have some ideas here, will get back to you on this topic; happen to be busy with the new disk jumbo... I bought some dvd-r's too to back up some other areas

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Tweaking.com Support & Help / Re: restore points
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:40:46 PM »
He is saying to have the reg backup also backup the boot manager in Windows, which isnt the registry, but something that could be a life saver if backed up.

Shane

Shane, there is not could be about it, it is definite! you should make your program run from an install disk, I would make it a priority there are many such programs that tweak, but lets tweak them all (LOL)

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 28, 2013, 09:26:52 PM »
Bad sectors can be a nightmare.

Get a new drive, get a free drive cloning tool and clone your drive to the new one. Keep the old bad one just in case you need another image of it.

Have chkdsk try to repair any errors it finds, it will try to read and move data out of the bad sectors.

Then once on the new drive and no more bad sectors we can try to do some repairs and see if Windows will come back up. Depends what was lost on those bad sectors. But since you have a reg backup you should be able to get it back up and going. :-)

Shane
I added this for reference;

Ok, after an online support session with a tech from Reimage.com, I was finally able to perform an 'InPlace Upgrade'. Basically he went through the same steps I had, including CheckSUR and sfc /scannow.
 
He did download and run a couple of tests with a tool from 'Tweaking.com' (Windows Repair - All in One). Step 1 advises the use of common anti-malware tools (e.g. MalwareBytes, etc.). Step 2 simply restarts the machine with a pending 'scandsk'. Step 3 runs 'sfc /scannow'. Step 4 creates a restore point. Step 5 performs some type of 'Repair', which appeared to reset permissions in the registry, files and folders. So, steps 1-4 were redundant with what I had already tried. After running step 5, we were still getting the same error.
 
Then he renamed %Windows%\SoftwareDistribution' to 'SoftwareDistribution.old'. That still didn't resolve the error.
 
But, after the end of the support session, I was able to run an 'InPlace Upgrade'--a major difference in behavior. It finished without any errors, and the machine appears to be back to a clean install, without having to reinstall from scratch.
 
I'm going to do a little research on the risks/benefits of the renamed folder. But, of everything I tried, that seemed to do the trick. If that doesn't work for you, then try step 5 of the 'Tweaking.com' utility as well.
 
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/31911-63-0x80073712-error_sxs_component_store_corrupt-windows-ultimate

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You have 3 threads on the blank screen in seems. Lets get this to just one thread please so I can keep track :-D

Shane

Can your "All in one program", be run from a boot cd?

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows Update error 80073712
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:16:23 AM »
I did a little research and I found out that the virus I got stuck with had this exact purpose, to corrupt the sxs. I found a thread in Toms hardware. There was a guy struggling with the same error. This error brings up another ten. We had exactly the same errors! Also, note that a repair install after the virus attack will not work. A clean install will do. Thank you for your support. Dont forget to check out the thread, that guy has some thoughts about what the problem would be.


Yeah, I can confirm; I get all those same errors too...
Did they ever figure out the root cause?

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 28, 2013, 09:07:03 AM »
Let me know the outcome of the drive scan, if  you have bad sectors that would explain a lot.

A repair install would allow you to keep all your programs and settings, BUT you need to be able to get into windows to do the repair install.

Shane

I think the overall candidate goes to read/write errors in the policies section, somehow, a virus has corrupted this issue...

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Tweaking.com Support & Help / Re: restore points
« on: May 28, 2013, 08:23:25 AM »
Could you explain what you mean, please.


disk imaging software

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General Computer Support / Re: Windows Update error 80073712
« on: May 28, 2013, 06:27:17 AM »
When sxs gets corrupt then your stuck. Your only option is a reinstall. I hate the winsxs folder because of this.

But thankfully you can do a repair install to fix it instead of a fresh install where you lose everything.

You didnt say what version of Windows you are on, so I will assume Windows 7.

First you will need a Windows 7 cd with SP1 already on it. You can get that here
https://sites.google.com/site/linuxlablibrary/windows-iso

And then just follow this guide :wink:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html

Shane

Shane, this sounds similar to needing to do a surface scan on the hard disk or
using that link I provided too do a complete chkdsk command from the install disk

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 28, 2013, 06:24:06 AM »
Let me know the outcome of the drive scan, if  you have bad sectors that would explain a lot.

A repair install would allow you to keep all your programs and settings, BUT you need to be able to get into windows to do the repair install.

Shane

yes, seems bad sectors is an issue; HAR DISK FAILURE anyone?
will run this method:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-system/smart-failure-predicted-on-hard-disk-2/7fbab34f-59ce-4780-80cc-e74186b54406

I will try http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html

will use their suface test scanner
reset the MBR Code,

see if it has some program to scan the drive and fix something... While it is running, I will go to BUY A NEW Hard drive, then use xxcopy and minitool is in my mind now...

I need this system back, we won't give up easily!

and, I won't buy MS8 either "no chance" , why I should when when so many problems with vista unexplained!

thank god for tweakers!

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 28, 2013, 04:20:41 AM »
Hi, Try this link and see the video solution. It is simple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6D-M9Uc1AA
If the above does not work, then try what I did. Boot off your Windows install disc, go to repair, & get to the command prompt. navigate to C:\windows\system32 and then rename utilman.exe to utilman.old

After that, rename cmd.exe to utilman.exe

Now, boot into Windows, and at your Black screen with the cursor now use the Key Combo [Windows Key] + and instead of bringing up the Accessibility Options, you'll get your command prompt. I hope this helps
Another try at MBR fix
To fix your mbr, boot from your windows 7 dvd, choose your language, time and keyboard input.
Click "repair computer"
Choose "command prompt"
Type: "bootsect /nt60 ALL" (without quotes )

Reboot

Edit: hit "del" to enter your bios to set your dvd as primary boot

jraju

I really appreciate your HELP here... I will try this too...

For now, need do some DISK CHECKING utilites and reset the MBR AGAIN using this utility...

http://www.partitionwizard.com/help/rebuild-mbr.html

I will also run a what changed program and post it here for you guys too...
I know, it matters, what changed :)

This problem will be found and we will find through this solution the all/to FIX for any BLACK SCREEN SYSTEM, and for any version!

One issue, maybe cause we had to do a xcopy of the old SAM files, it may cause of a userid issue to protect my data...
however, running the code on the other webpage should have fixed that issue. but it should bring uip a prompt to verify who I am!
at least... "don't you think so?"

The Winlogin Code is/was Corrupt,

also, only copying the SAM file should have brought me back too "BUT"

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 28, 2013, 04:10:41 AM »
Let me know the outcome of the drive scan, if  you have bad sectors that would explain a lot.

A repair install would allow you to keep all your programs and settings, BUT you need to be able to get into windows to do the repair install.

Shane

For reference: I will run the CHKDSK Commands ; chkdsk /x /r /b C: and also after that finishes, D: too

yes, seems bad sectors is an issue; HAR DISK FAILURE anyone?

I will try http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html
reset the MBR Code, see if it has some program to scan the drive and fix something... While it is running, I will go to BUY A NEW Hard drive, then use xxcopy tool...

I need this system back, we won't give up easily!

and, I won't buy MS8 either "no chance" , why I should when when so many problems with vista unexplained!

thank god for tweakers!

After Running CHKDSK mode; we shouild note, IMPORTANT FACT;
If the lost segment came from a program file, you probably will not be able to re-merge it. If possible, replace the file by re-copying from the ORIGINAL SOURCE. If you cannot replace the file, check the program file that is stored on disk carefully by running all of its features. It may still be operational.

Question; will Running a SFC fix this issue?

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Tweaking.com Support & Help / Re: restore points
« on: May 28, 2013, 03:33:35 AM »
I hope you will fix your program to backup dual boot files systems :)

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 27, 2013, 11:54:33 AM »
Nope, we cant do that.............

Heres WHY; I dont want to buy every program AGAIN!

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
From the VENFOR;
Hello, I'm afraid that we have failed to find any registrations/purchases with your email address. If you are a registered user of IDM, please use the following web page to retrieve your serial number
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

This after I give them my serial number too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets look at this, reset the BIOS, going int ot he BIOS, it shows the UUID as the hard driove that I already RE-INSTALLED as you suggest. however, this is not a solution!

therefore, after changing back to the OLD hard drive, we must remember to boot into the CMOPS and BE SURE it sees the RIGHT UUID or hard drive matched with the MASTER BOOT CODE.

So lets start over....

I do find that link useful, will most likely help many... but not me in this case.

after running those commands, it gave me an error that said the logon is corrupt, can not read.
I will copy that file back to the directly. "yeah, we will run chkdsk again too" I will use the acronis disk director for read write errors.

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Tweaking.com Support & Help / Re: restore points
« on: May 27, 2013, 11:41:15 AM »
Seems making an ISO of the disk is the only solution !

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 27, 2013, 05:20:51 AM »
Are you familiar with Farbar Recovery Scan Tool?

If so, I cam post a log here and perhaps you can help :)

For reference; I am only able to rub it from a USB Recovery Disk.

From here, I hope someone can provide assistance to restore the registry:
I am not sure what could be the issue, also, would like some help to restore any changes using this tool...

Scan result of Farbar Recovery Scan Tool (FRST) (x86) Version: 10-05-2013 01 (ATTENTION: FRST version is 17 days old)
Ran by SYSTEM on 27-05-2013 20:11:52

Removed as my results will have no help to who-ever reads my file...

Each File ran by this program needs seperate case

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 27, 2013, 03:07:33 AM »
thanks I will have a try. maybe take a couple days.

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Tweaking.com Support & Help / Re: restore points
« on: May 26, 2013, 10:27:14 AM »
I am searching for some software that will only search restore points;

And

No program should ever turn of system restore; we should enable a locking key to avoid this, also, when you run the disk cleaner, be sure not to delete restore points. that oo should not be a feature!

I am also going to try this program too, see if any good results

Please Google: Farbar Recovery Scan Tool to dowload. the link I had provided does'nt always work

FARBAR RECOVERY TOOL

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It might be related to this

http://en.kioskea.net/faq/25635-how-to-fix-active-desktop-recovery-error-message

can anyone make a fix to use with a DOS Command prompt

thanks in advance

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Windows Registry keys corrupt;

Issue: Control panel date and time link does not open

Issue: hovering over the date and time does not show the date or time calendar in the right hand corner

Issue: Right Click Personalize on desktop does not open the Personalize window

Issue; Personalize Missing from Control Panel

need help to repair theses functions: need to re-write the registry keys.

hard drive swapping; "CRITICAL ALL VERSIONS"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

I own a legal copy of windows; people using your service should be warned that their systems will not start if they are using an illegal copy of windows :)

I do not have a virus, as I know!

Already ran Avast, MBAM to check for malware...

I did an old registry backup but can not use the old registry as there are too many conflicts... besides, these are only windows issues and just Right for your programming qualities :)

Thank you for your assistance in advance...

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 26, 2013, 05:14:55 AM »
Hi, Have you tried any  new custom desktop display. What is your operating system. If you choose adifferent desktop display, then there is possibility of loosing colur default display. If you restore to the normal desktop display, then your problem would be solved. I do not know. I had this problem and once i reset the default windows desktop, my problem got solved.

Apology, answered in the other post:

you mean like this?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929200

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 26, 2013, 05:12:58 AM »
You answered in another thread that restoring the registry didnt fix the blank screen, then the problem isnt in the registry.

>Well, ;lets look here. The old registry as I remember had the same problem with a BLACK SCREEN, therefore, it has to be a registry matter. Here why; total new install works fine  :confused:

Do you have any external hard drives hooked to the system?
>no, I do not plug in the new working hard drive into the USB port

I did notice that after I re-stalled the old hard drive, I had to go back into setup in the install CD, it then backed up the registy. probably the BAD one, Which file does it back up from REGBAK? if so, then I have a mind to copy the files from the working disk to that folder...

It seems that is where the problem takes me back too at this point...

is there ap program that will search only restore points, deleted ones at that? seems that is what we need here! oops, another idea slipped out or is there an actual program for that?


Shane

you mean like this?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929200

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You have 3 threads on the blank screen in seems. Lets get this to just one thread please so I can keep track :-D

Shane

I guess after we find the problem, we can delete the useless dribble

Always better to stick to the facts?

point is to try and get other people involved from different cases... then maybe it will spedup the FIX LOL

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen - Fixed
« on: May 26, 2013, 04:53:26 AM »
You answered in another thread that restoring the registry didnt fix the blank screen, then the problem isnt in the registry.

>Well, ;lets look here. The old registry as I remember had the same problem with a BLACK SCREEN, therefore, it has to be a registry matter. Here why; total new install works fine  :confused:

Do you have any external hard drives hooked to the system?
>no, I do not plug in the new working hard drive into the USB port

I did notice that after I re-stalled the old hard drive, I had to go back into setup in the install CD, it then backed up the registy. probably the BAD one, Which file does it back up from REGBAK? if so, then I have a mind to copy the files from the working disk to that folder...

It seems that is where the problem takes me back too at this point...

is there ap prgram that will search only restore points, deleted ones at that? seems that is what we need here! oops, another idea slipped out or is there an actual program for that?


Shane

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General Computer Support / Re: Black Screen
« on: May 25, 2013, 12:51:02 PM »
When you just say a black screen, are you able to pull up the menu before Windows loads to choose safe mode, or does that not even come up?

And on the black screen do you have a blinking cursor in the corner?

Shane

The issue with the black screen? it boots up, but seems to not refresh after it starts...

Can you or someone grab this file, test it? it might be very useful... it is blocked here
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?lang=eng&DwnldID=15074

Does this file check the video too?????

THANK YOU in advance

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