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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2018, 04:14:54 PM »
Can you boot up with your install disk again to access Command Prompt and enter -

bcdedit

That should list your Windows Boot Loader identifier which can either be current or default.

Then using your identifier if different than mine, enter this cmd -

bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot

exit

Then reboot to see if that gets you back to normal - or have you already tried this cmd ?

Note the type of brackets used.

Normally when the program has hung on to safe mode, you can still boot up to Windows but some services will not load.

I'm not sure why yours isn't booting.

Can you switch on and when the Windows logo comes up, power shutdown and do this twice more, leaving the machine on after the third switch on.

This should produce Diagnosing your computer then see what it reports.

As for backing up your files, follow the steps in this article for EasUs but you will need access to another computer to create the WPE bootable disk/USB.

https://www.easeus.com/todo-backup-resource/backup-data-without-booting-into-windows.html

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2018, 05:34:00 PM »
Thanks for your detailed replies.

I have already tried ALL of the things you suggested, but none of them get into Windows.

As for getting the data, I already have that on an external backup HD.

The Files that I need are via USERS (see my last post), which is part of the system. Consequently, they do not show in Notepad and Easus will also not detect any System files.

only the DATA files.






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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2018, 01:39:08 AM »
I'd forgotten to ask if you had tried the restore point option from the advanced boot options to see if that will get it to boot up.

Win 10 has a Reset option which preserves your personal files although not any installed programs, but I don't know if that would include Users.

When you open Notepad you can use the Look in dropdown to see if it lists the section where your files could be but an alternative is to boot up with a Linux Mint USB.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-back-up-data-on-your-computer-that-wont-boot/

I don't have any experience of this method but the article seems to give a decent walkthrough and I've heard of this method being advised before.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2018, 02:45:34 PM »

Sorry for the delay in replying, I have been away all day.

I had already tried the restore point but it says there is nothing to restore.

The Windows 10 Reset option will delete everything except the data files.

Notepad dropdown does not list any files in the system, only data files.

As noted by you, using Tweaking leaves the registry messed up, but I cannot fix it with your new version as I can't get into Windows to download it.

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2018, 02:57:18 PM »
When you use the Reset option in Win 10, there is the option to preserve your personal stuff but not any installed programs and there's the full reset which deletes everything.

Was that last link any help in locating and backing up the User files you are looking for ?
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2018, 05:15:40 PM »
I have the user data (personal stuff) backed up - that is not the problem.

The last link will delete the very files I must preserve.

Are there any specialist tools, or people, that will access just certain files in the system (the ones I have mentioned), without actually getting the system up and running?

Ps. Happy New Year :smiley:

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2019, 02:41:35 AM »
How will it delete the files you are trying to preserve ?

Paragon supplies a free version of its program which has a file transfer wizard as well as being able to resolve boot problems, but I can't seem to find the download I once used to create my rescue disk - perhaps you can Google for a Paragon Rescue Disk.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2019, 04:41:08 PM »
What is the estimated date that Tweaking.com - Windows Repair will be fixed so it does not keep a PC stuck in Safe Mode?

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2019, 12:56:09 AM »
What is the estimated date that Tweaking.com - Windows Repair will be fixed so it does not keep a PC stuck in Safe Mode?

I don't know.

It depends upon when Shane feels well enough to get back to work on it - he hasn't been very well for a few weeks, otherwise he would have already have been working on it or had it resolved by now.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2019, 03:44:15 PM »
Has Tweaking.com - Windows Repair been fixed so it does not keep a PC stuck in Safe Mode?

If Tweaking.com - Windows Repair has not been fixed, what is the estimated date that it will be fixed?

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2019, 11:07:27 PM »
WIN 10 PRO, 1809 and all updates as of 2-1-2019. WR 443 Pro Version. When I boot into safe mode I get a blank screen, except for the 3 window buttons at the bottom of the screen. Not using WR until this is fixed. Any suggestions???

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2019, 02:05:48 AM »
Has Tweaking.com - Windows Repair been fixed so it does not keep a PC stuck in Safe Mode?

If Tweaking.com - Windows Repair has not been fixed, what is the estimated date that it will be fixed?

This isn't affecting everyone so I don't know what is happening about that.

As a safeguard, create a system image onto external media before running the program when you need to run it.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2019, 02:08:53 AM »
WIN 10 PRO, 1809 and all updates as of 2-1-2019. WR 443 Pro Version. When I boot into safe mode I get a blank screen, except for the 3 window buttons at the bottom of the screen. Not using WR until this is fixed. Any suggestions???

Crow

Can you boot into Safe Mode with Networking normally through Windows ?
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2019, 04:21:15 AM »
It looks like Shane has addressed the Safe Mode and Windows Defender problem with v4.4.3 but I still think it prudent to create a system image first before running this program or any other that works on the registry.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2019, 06:16:56 AM »
I see that Shane decided not to use Windows Defender for repairs in Tweaking 4.4.4  Finally he realized that this part doesn't work the way that Microsoft want.

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2019, 07:26:57 AM »
Well there was a Windows update that screwed up the Windows Apps repairs which took MS about 4 months to resolve, so Shane had to default uncheck that repair.

Whereas it has been thought by users that the repair program was at fault, it turns out that MS has been changing things around that had otherwise gone unnoticed because there was no reason to believe the WD path should have been changed.

With each Win 10 update Shane has to update the repair program because of changes made to the Permissions by MS.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2019, 08:03:47 AM »
That's how Microsoft works and they do what they want with their programs. I have noticed that Microsoft kept changing from one version to another version like update. I know it's very frustrating for Shane with this.

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2019, 08:15:55 AM »
I've uninstalled Norton Security on one of my Win 10 machines and did a test run of 4.4.3 but found WD would not scan after the reboot, so it looks as though the path change affects 4.4.3.

As that version has now been superseded with 4.4.4 we shouldn't see any more complaints about WD not working, providing they use the latest version.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2019, 05:21:21 PM »
Will this Ver 4.4.9 work for Win10 1903.

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2019, 12:54:20 AM »
Will this Ver 4.4.9 work for Win10 1903.

No - this has already been raised on the forum in that it produces a compatibility error.

As soon as Shane gets 1903 he will then know what changes he will need to make so that it encompasses 1903 as well as previous versions.

While you can manually update to 1903 through the MCT the general release for this update isn't until 11th June.

Was this just a general enquiry or is there a reason why you need to run the repair program.
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2019, 08:36:46 PM »
Thank You for the come back. So it will be sometime in June before its changes.
Here what I have--
  Windows 10 Home
  Ver 1903
  Installed on 5/22/2019
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2019, 02:01:18 AM »
Shane has installed 1903 into his VM so he'll be working on the update now.

He'll release the updated WR when that is complete and tested.

The general release of 1903 isn't until 11th June so hopefully he will have released the latest version of the repair program in time for then or sooner.

Was yours just a general enquiry or is there a reason why you need to run the repair program ?
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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2019, 03:34:00 PM »
Thanks-I do look forward for it.

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Re: Windows 10 build 1809 and WR (Make sure to use WR 4.4.0 or newer)
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2019, 03:39:54 PM »
I'll be creating a system image before I test run the new version as I do for all new versions.
Tom.