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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2020, 01:39:43 PM »
Hello,
also i used the v4.9.0 , suitable for win10 2004 , and fixed some windows permissions and the 230! sytem reparse points scanned as missing/wrong , and no worries so far
thanks

Glad that sorted things out for you but given the bugs reported in 2004 I think I'll wait for the next release from MS.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2020, 01:20:05 AM »
I got the update through Windows Update, but the following day the laptop began freezing.

I tried a number of things before finally using the system image I'd created beforehand to restore back to 1909.

On Googling, it suggests that this freezing could be because of outdated drivers and to update them in Safe Mode with Networking but if the machine is frozen, then that wouldn't be possible.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2020, 02:05:23 AM »
There is an alternative way to access the Start-up Settings other than pressing and holding the SHIFT button throughout a Restart and that is to power shutdown, switch on then power shutdown when the Win 10 logo comes up.

Quickly do this a second time and then allow the machine to start on the third switch on.

This will go through diagnostic procedures and end with a warning that the machine didn't start properly.

You can ignore this as it's probably related to the repeated shutdowns.

Clicking on Advanced, you will then be able to select Troubleshoot/Advanced options to select Start-up Settings and eventually press F5 for Safe Mode with Networking.

However, in my Googling for a solution to the freezes, there was no mention of this method and I think many people would be unaware of this alternative method.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2020, 05:42:14 AM »
I got the update through Windows Update, but the following day the laptop began freezing.

I tried a number of things before finally using the system image I'd created beforehand to restore back to 1909.

On Googling, it suggests that this freezing could be because of outdated drivers and to update them in Safe Mode with Networking but if the machine is frozen, then that wouldn't be possible.
Hi, saw somewhere but couldnt remember where, that Hewlett Packard has released a specific patch for their laptops with installation prior to the Update to Win10 2004 , as there were many laptops from their brand stuck with latest microsoft update

ps : from my side i had, constant refresh loop in explorer.exe folders and desktop icons every 10s :  So i remove most of "none-microsoft" ShellExt (context right click menu ) and had to uninstall E-Share(ncryptedcloud)
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2020, 06:07:25 AM »
Well I read that MS were going to hold off releasing the update to Intel based machines with integral graphics which this Toshiba has.

Apparently 2004 also had problems with Nvidia graphics - again.

As I got the update through Windows Update, I assumed they had ironed out the bugs.

I only have one driver that updated and that is for my Realtek wireless adapter.

The thing is, is that it installs one dated 31 March 2016 and when I check that on InSSIDer3 the graph looks like a broken saw blade, so I stick with a one from April 2013 which was my Win 7 driver and is more stable.

I don't know if that driver was the cause of the machine freezing, but I'm quite happy with 1909.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2020, 06:16:03 AM »
Probablely, for laptops integrated CPUs, audio and GPU drivers are doing the glitches, i have a desktop with intel processor I7(4th gen), Asus Z87Pro Mb with intel gpu +realtek   integrated but i have a nvidia graphic card , so i guess i avoided most of the worries (and if could remember well i gave up realtek audio updates , and used the microsoft ones(new certification for drivers, prior to win1809)
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2020, 06:17:37 AM »
I've always stuck with Realtek audio drivers.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2020, 06:21:59 AM »
I've always stuck with Realtek audio drivers.
i've just attached my current audio drivers picture( previous post)

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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2020, 06:28:24 AM »
I checked Device Manager for an update but it said the latest one was already installed, even though it's dated 2011 which is when the machine was bought.

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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2020, 07:01:40 AM »
I checked Device Manager for an update but it said the latest one was already installed, even though it's dated 2011 which is when the machine was bought.
I think i desactivated the onboard(MB Asus Z87Pro ) Realtek integrated audio/Drivers when they were not anymore so often updated( perhaps in 2019)
when the Microsoft Drivers had to be WHQL certified to run on fresh install of win10 (by Windows Hardware Developer Center Dashboard ) had been put in place by Microsoft in a purpose to avoid interences between old/not often updated corrupting the kernel
that kind of worries(french version) : https://support.microsoft.com/fr-fr/help/4529832/updating-to-windows-10-version-1903-on-devices-with-some-driver-versio

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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2020, 07:11:53 AM »
This machine while being updated from Win 7 has worked well on Win 10 until this latest update.

When I earlier updated through the MCT I don't think I had any problems but didn't have it on long enough to find out before I restored back to 1909 because of the reported bugs.

This didn't start freezing until the day after, so I don't know what brought that on.

It seemed to resolve for a while after I performed a Start-up Repair but it started to freeze again, even though I had time to run the Windows Memory Diagnostic on both RAM sticks separately.
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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2020, 07:27:03 AM »
ok good luck with your investigations i also made many ram/disks tests , removed most of unsuitable startup softwares , it has been running quite well since like version 1809 with was the best from my side

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Re: 2004 ver
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2020, 01:37:07 PM »
I think I'll leave any investigations until I install it again, but it hasn't appeared in updates yet.
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