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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #75 on: March 30, 2016, 10:25:23 am »
Have a great evening.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #76 on: March 30, 2016, 10:27:36 am »
Oh - I'll be back in a couple of hours or so unless I fall asleep in my armchair after my meal :D

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #77 on: March 30, 2016, 12:02:08 pm »
Was able to do scan disc and attached are the results. Will be away tomorrow another hospital for my hearing, I AM SO EXCITED, CAN HARDLY WAIT  :sarcastic:

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2016, 12:25:11 pm »
In recovery manager under open a command prompt I entered shutdown/r/t to try and exit rovery manager and it did not work does not recognize the input.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #79 on: March 30, 2016, 02:04:38 pm »
Yes, the HDD is starting to fail with 24KBs of bad sectors reported.

This will be why the Startup Repair took as long as it did and failed to repair.

Was that chkdsk done with the recovery built in chkdsk or with a chkdsk /r from the cmd prompt ?

Does the recovery cmd prompt have a x:> prompt ?

The shutdown cmd also failed at my recovery cmd prompt as well but I normally enter exit to close the cmd window and then click on either the Shutdown or Restart buttons.

I find your HP recovery set up puzzling.

If you did it from Safe Mode with Command Prompt then it should have worked, but you must enter the cmd correctly -

shutdown /r /t 00

with a space before each forward slash and a space before the double zero after the /t

Can you run another chkdsk c: /r to see if it reports it is still repairing files etc. ?

If it says the volume is okay, then run another Startup Repair, but the HDD will fail eventually and you should create a full system image onto external media before it does so that after the HDD replacement, you can restore it back to the way it was, but working.

You would also need to create a System Repair Disk which can be done on your wife's machine if it is also a Win 7 one, but it must match your 32 or 64 bit architecture.

If you don't have any personal stuff on there and you are able to reinstall any paid for programs, then you could purchase a set of OEM Recovery Disks from HP for your model which will take it back to out of the box, but this involves time consuming work with Windows Updates, updating the likes of Java and Adobe - uninstalling older versions of Java - reinstalling your programs and if applicable, a printer.

You could of course put it into a repair shop and ask them to do it all for you which would take the pressure off you.

However, I recently had occasion to recover an older Toshiba Win 7 laptop with a bought OEM Recovery disk for trouble shooting purposes and on the envelope it came in, it said that it didn't include MS Works which came pre-installed on that laptop - if you went with loading the new HDD with an OEM Recovery disk, you could then restore that with the system image you have created which will save a lot of work.

PS - One advantage with hearing problems is that you won't hear the wife nagging you or asking to you to do this that or the other :D
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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #80 on: March 31, 2016, 03:19:37 am »
Was that chkdsk done with the recovery built in chkdsk or with a chkdsk /r from the cmd prompt ?
It was done with chkdsk /r from the cmd prompt

Does the recovery cmd prompt have a x:> prompt ?
(Not sure, will run it again)

The shutdown cmd also failed.
( I will do it again as well)

I will have to get back to you as I am out of hear at 7:00am as this my big day, I have two biopsies and 1 of them is no fun.
Thanks and I will get back to you, I have some thinking to do.
Pete

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #81 on: April 01, 2016, 01:47:15 am »
Not so long back I had a biopsy taken during a procedure - that was okay but the prep and the camera up was certainly no fun.

How are you getting on with the computer ?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #82 on: April 01, 2016, 02:06:07 am »
Hi Tom, you won't believe my luck! After I had the Prostate Biopsy, at 8:00pm last night I went to emergency because I couldn't pee. I just got home because they had me on a machine that cleans the blood out of the system and stuck a catheter in until Monday and is depending on if the swelling is down enough to take it out. This happened 10 years ago only I had a 12 needle biopsy, 4 in each tumor, this time round 8 needles for 2 tumor's. 

Once again I know I should be taking your help when it is available but if you don't mind I would really like to wait until next week when things should get back to normal? I wouldn't blame you if you gave up on me it's been weeks and so far a waste of your time. I will however review everything and decide if it should go to the computer store, but I would really like to beat this just to prove I can, and I find it interesting. If you don't mind I may just send you the odd comment or question to help me decide what to do.

Sorry for all the dismay and again thank so much to date, nice to see there are people like you and Shane, who still care about others.
Sincerely
Pete

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #83 on: April 01, 2016, 02:14:03 am »
Take all of the time you like, Pete - you have enough on your plate without worrying about what to do with your laptop - we'll still be here (hopefully) whenever you are ready to resume.

Actually - notwithstanding anything else, I had a feeling that you were enjoying delving into this :)

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #84 on: April 01, 2016, 02:23:58 am »
I was enjoying it very much so, your never to old to learn. Thanks again and have a great weekend, I'm going to see if sleep will work for me. Have a great weekend
Pete

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #85 on: April 01, 2016, 02:26:39 am »
Hope it isn't too long before you get your strength back up.

Bye for now.

Tom.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #86 on: April 01, 2016, 10:06:00 am »
It won't be I'm tough, it's just that I am facing so many health issues at one time and the Prednisone I am taking beats the crap out of me, one thing I know for sure that only the good die young so I am safe there.

Tried to run check disk second time and instead it said "cannot run check disk because the volume is in use buy another process.  check disk may run if this volume is dismounted first. All open handles to this volume would then be invalid.
 would you like to force the dismount on this volume yes or no.
Any suggestions (which door should I choose?
Pete

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #87 on: April 01, 2016, 10:15:42 am »
That's the standard response to a chkdsk /f or /r cmd as it cannot be run in Windows and has to be done before Windows boots up.

Type and enter y then enter shutdown /r /t 00 and wait for it to do its thing.

To see the full report, go Start - type eventvwr and press enter.

When Event Viewer has read the data, expand Windows Logs by clicking on the arrow head next to it then click on the name Application - Action - Find then type chkdsk or wininit into the Find box and press enter.

Cancel the Find box and read the report in the scrollable window.

BTW - How did you manage to capture the last chkdsk report ?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #88 on: April 01, 2016, 10:22:20 am »
When it finished checking the report was on the screen, I did nothing!

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2016, 10:25:29 am »
So that must have been run within the Recovery Environment where the volume doesn't need to be dismounted first, so you wouldn't have seen that message where you have to type y or n

You could do it from there again if you like.

Just been given another Karma point - was that from you ?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2016, 10:29:12 am »
So I would still have to type in what you have a bug in order to get out of this screen I mean at this point?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2016, 10:33:57 am »
Where you are at now, you could type n then exit to close the cmd window or enter the shutdown cmd where it would try to reboot into normal mode - is this where it puts you into the Recovery Environment ?

See what happens when you enter y and the shutdown cmd.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2016, 10:36:16 am »
I just entered the shutdown mode and the computer is doing his thing.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2016, 10:38:26 am »
Good - as it's after 6:30pm here, I'm going to have to shoot off to do my evening meal and will be back in a couple of hours or so.


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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2016, 10:42:48 am »
If you're eating steak have a  big one for me medium rare, good for the heart.
Not sure if I'm going to be up to the computer later on or not I'm going to try hard.
Have a good meal
Pete

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2016, 12:37:04 pm »
Oh, nothing like that and I prefer my meat fully cooked :)

How did the chkdsk go ?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2016, 01:25:54 pm »
The screen reads check disk is verifying files stage 1 of 3
Then 8 lines  that read, file record segment 28 is unreadable, says the same from 29 through 35
256 file records processed
File verification completed

0 large file records processed
8 bad file records processed
0 EA records processed
0 reparse records processed

Check disk is verifying indexes
65% complete 255 of 322 index entries processed
Deleting index entry boot an index 130 of 5
67% complete 264 of 322 index entries processed
Deleting index entry repair index 130 of file 27
Deleting index entry t x f in index 130 of 27
Deleting index entry t x f log in index 130 of file 27
322 index entries processed
Index verification completed
Check disk is scanning un indexed files for reconnect to their original directory
30 un indexed files scanned
Check disk is recovering remaining unindexed files
30 index files recovered
Check disk is verifying security description stage 3 of 3
256 file SDs/SIDS processed
Security descriptor verification completed
33 data files processed
Adding to 2 bad clusters to the bad clusters file
Correcting errors in the master file tables  MFT Data attribute
Correcting errors in the master file tables MFT bitmap attribute
Correcting errors in the volume bitmap
Windows has made corrections to file system
203775  KB total disk space
14828 KB in 42 files 
16 KB in37 indexes
32 KB in bad sectors
2727 KB in use by the system
2048 KB occupied by the log file
186172 KD available on disc

4096 bites in each allocation unit
50943 total allocation units on disc
46543 allocation units available on disk
Failed to transfer logged messages to the event log with status 50




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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2016, 01:49:25 pm »
I see the bad sectors have increased from 24 to 32 KBs.

Did it boot up okay after the chkdsk ?

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2016, 05:28:15 am »
Just got a chance to look at the screen now and it says Windows failed to start a recent Hardware or software change might be the cause to fix the problem
1 insert your Windows installation disc and restart your computer
2 choose your language settings and click next
3 click repair your computer

If you do not have this desk contact your system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance

File: /Boot/BCD  ( should be backward slashes I don't see it on my keyboard
Status: 0x000000f
Info an error occurred while attempting to read the boot configuration data

At the very bottom left-hand corner of the screen it says enter to continue and on the right it has escaped or exit

I have will try and be at the computer as much as I can I just got back from the emergency at game because my catheter blocked, talk about luck.

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Re: NEED HELP wINDOWS 7
« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2016, 06:02:26 am »
Are you familiar with this site and do you think it might work?