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Shane, I was anxious to try the new Windows Repair Beta section.  I thought it was :confused: OK for a while.  I watched Resource Monitor PID 4 and saw it start to eat up the HDD time-wise:  near 100% nearly all the time.  I think it stange that the list in the bottom section in Res Mon shows many / multiple Volume System Information files being read both Background and Normal at the same time.  Hmmm?  I wish I could figure out what's going on in there.  Ha!!!
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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 02:30:05 PM »
Make sure to post in the right section bud :-)

There is something messed up with your system restore that is for sure. The repair right now is just aimed at getting restore working. Have you tried to see how it does if you run it windows in safe mode for a while?

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 05:14:14 AM »
I haven't yet, but I will do it today after I get my work done.  I do enjoy troubleshooting.  I learn so much about my computer and get satisfaction from a successful tweak!

Thanks.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 10:24:52 AM »
Make sure to post in the right section bud :-)

There is something messed up with your system restore that is for sure. The repair right now is just aimed at getting restore working. Have you tried to see how it does if you run it windows in safe mode for a while?

Shane

Started in Safe Mode:  System Restore worked normally!?!  The Resmon.exe showed 0 to 10% from PID 4 at random intervals.  The list showed only ONE Volume System Information file (except initially when there were three total, the other two with lesser access went away and never returned while I monitored it). 

Hope this helps you determine how System Restore works internally.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 10:33:09 AM »
Safe mode has less services and almost no programs running.

So now the question is, is it a service or program that is causing the problem?

When back in normal mode is it the same pid on each instance or is there a different PID?

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 10:59:13 AM »
Same PID (4) in all cases:  Normal/Background/SafeMode/all Volume System Information files.  Again, in Safe Mode, only one VSI is running and is accessed rarely by the System.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 11:06:52 AM »
Go to your users folder and right click on desktop and choose properties. Click the previous versions tab. Is it empty?

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 01:28:20 PM »
Desktop previous versions is empty.  There are two Desktop files:  one under Administrator and the other under the name of the Computer, both of which are administrators.
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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 01:29:28 PM »
OPen cmd.exe and put this in

vssadmin list shadows

Let me know what it shows :-)

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 01:34:05 PM »
"No items found that satisfy the query.".  Oh! System Restore is off, right now.
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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2013, 01:46:03 PM »
I have found countless pages about the PID 4 process thrashing the drive and seems to be some bug in Windows with something else.

Have you tried disabling your antivirus with system restore on?

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 01:49:35 PM »
Nope, but I'll do it, right now!  I use the IObit's ASC Ultimate 6 (Pro) as A/V scanner.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »
Turned off A/V and Set a Restore Point.  ResMon.exe shows 10 - 12  SVI files, all but one of which are Normal I/O Priority.  Disk access is 95 to 100%.  SVI is almost always the top Write (B/s) file.  Otherwise, Pagefile.sys is the winner.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2013, 02:06:09 PM »
I'm also noticing an aprox. 50 second period of normal disk activity using Speedometer.  During the last ~10 seconds, the HDD R/W goes upwards to between 9 and 11 MB/s.  This corresponds with what I see on the ResMon.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2013, 04:27:41 PM »
Really at a loss at this one bud. Without getting my hand son it I dont know why system restore is doing that.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 07:07:18 AM »
It may be as "simple" as re-installing Window$ 7 x 64.  Ha!  I'll keep trying different things and searching the net for potential solutions.  If and/or when I find "it", I'll definately notify you.  Thanks for your concern and assistance to me.  EVERYTIME I ask you for help, I learn something new and enlightening.  And, I know how desireous you are to help all of us!  God bless you and your family, Shane!

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2013, 10:39:09 AM »
I am always here to help :-)

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2013, 10:42:04 AM »
Addendum:  I downloaded the newest Windows Repair Portable and ran the Beta System Restore again.  I carefully watched Resmon.exe after running the Beta.  Very quickly, the PID 4 filled-up with multiple System Information files, into the middle teens, if not twenties.  The vast number of them and their changing position made exact numbering difficult/impossible.   Only two were being written-to, at any one time.  Some of them were being read concurrently.  I hope this bit of additional information helps in the decoding and solution to this weird Windows 7 anomoly.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2013, 10:31:27 PM »
Thanks. So far I havent had a single person report that the beta repair has helped. At the same time I have only had a hand full of people respond anyways lol

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2013, 02:20:03 PM »
I found an old SystemRestoreRepair utility here:
http://www.utilitypc.biz/download_08/SystemRestoreRepair/sysrestorepair-1_1.zip
Anyway, be careful, because according to the release notes it seems to work only for windows XP.

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Re: New Windows Repair "Beta" (System Restore) still a no-go for my Win7x64
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2013, 02:33:23 PM »
Yeah the system restore in XP is totally different than in vista and 7. In XP there is an inf file that installs system restore, with it I could trace everything it needs. IN the new versions they changed how system restore works, and from what I can tell system restore requires a number of other services and settings. The hard part is finding all that it needs.

Shane